The Bengal Famine: How the British engineered the worst genocide in human history for profit

August 20, 2014 12:31 pm 476 comments Views: 62016

I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits.”

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    -Winston Churchill

The British had a ruthless economic agenda when it came to operating in India and that did not include empathy for native citizens. Under the British Raj, India suffered countless famines. But the worst hit was Bengal. The first of these was in 1770, followed by severe ones in 1783, 1866, 1873, 1892, 1897 and lastly 1943-44. Previously, when famines had hit the country, indigenous rulers were quick with useful responses to avert major disasters. After the advent of the British, most of the famines were a consequence of monsoonal delays along with the exploitation of the country’s natural resources by the British for their own financial gain. Yet they did little to acknowledge the havoc these actions wrought. If anything, they were irritated at the inconveniences in taxing the famines brought about.

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The first of these famines was in 1770 and was ghastly brutal. The first signs indicating the coming of such a huge famine manifested in 1769 and the famine itself went on till 1773. It killed approximately 10 million people, millions more than the Jews incarcerated during the Second World War. It wiped out one third the population of Bengal. John Fiske, in his book “The Unseen World”, wrote that the famine of 1770 in Bengal was far deadlier than the Black Plague that terrorized Europe in the fourteenth century. Under the Mughal rule, peasants were required to pay a tribute of 10-15 per cent of their cash harvest. This ensured a comfortable treasury for the rulers and a wide net of safety for the peasants in case the weather did not hold for future harvests. In 1765 the Treaty of Allahabad was signed and East India Company took over the task of collecting the tributes from the then Mughal emperor Shah Alam II. Overnight the tributes, the British insisted on calling them tributes and not taxes for reasons of suppressing rebellion, increased to 50 percent. The peasants were not even aware that the money had changed hands. They paid, still believing that it went to the Emperor.

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Partial failure of crop was quite a regular occurrence in the Indian peasant’s life. That is why the surplus stock, which remained after paying the tributes, was so important to their livelihood. But with the increased taxation, this surplus deteriorated rapidly. When partial failure of crops came in 1768, this safety net was no longer in place. The rains of 1769 were dismal and herein the first signs of the terrible draught began to appear. The famine occurred mainly in the modern states of West Bengal and Bihar but also hit Orissa, Jharkhand and Bangladesh. Bengal was, of course, the worst hit. Among the worst affected areas were Birbum and Murshidabad in Bengal. Thousands depopulated the area in hopes of finding sustenance elsewhere, only to die of starvation later on. Those who stayed on perished nonetheless. Huge acres of farmland were abandoned. Wilderness started to thrive here, resulting in deep and inhabitable jungle areas. Tirhut, Champaran and Bettiah in Bihar were similarly affected in Bihar.

Abandoned

Prior to this, whenever the possibility of a famine had emerged, the Indian rulers would waive their taxes and see compensatory measures, such as irrigation, instituted to provide as much relief as possible to the stricken farmers. The colonial rulers continued to ignore any warnings that came their way regarding the famine, although starvation had set in from early 1770. Then the deaths started in 1771. That year, the company raised the land tax to 60 per cent in order to recompense themselves for the lost lives of so many peasants. Fewer peasants resulted in less crops that in turn meant less revenue. Hence the ones who did not yet succumb to the famine had to pay double the tax so as to ensure that the British treasury did not suffer any losses during this travesty.

After taking over from the Mughal rulers, the British had issued widespread orders for cash crops to be cultivated. These were intended to be exported. Thus farmers who were used to growing paddy and vegetables were now being forced to cultivate indigo, poppy and other such items that yielded a high market value for them but could be of no relief to a population starved of food. There was no backup of edible crops in case of a famine. The natural causes that had contributed to the draught were commonplace. It was the single minded motive for profit that wrought about the devastating consequences. No relief measure was provided for those affected. Rather, as mentioned above, taxation was increased to make up for any shortfall in revenue. What is more ironic is that the East India Company generated a profited higher in 1771 than they did in 1768.

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Although the starved populace of Bengal did not know it yet, this was just the first of the umpteen famines, caused solely by the motive for profit, that was to slash across the country side. Although all these massacres were deadly in their own right, the deadliest one to occur after 1771 was in 1943 when three million people died and others resorted to eating grass and human flesh in order to survive.

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Winston Churchill, the hallowed British War prime minister who saved Europe from a monster like Hitler was disturbingly callous about the roaring famine that was swallowing Bengal’s population. He casually diverted the supplies of medical aid and food that was being dispatched to the starving victims to the already well supplied soldiers of Europe. When entreated upon he said, “Famine or no famine, Indians will breed like rabbits.” The Delhi Government sent a telegram painting to him a picture of the horrible devastation and the number of people who had died. His only response was, “Then why hasn’t Gandhi died yet?”

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  • SN

    We never studied this section of history in India. Our books today are purged of the bad stuff I guess.

    • Yvonne Horak

      Sure, you never learnt the history of where Hitler got his ideas for concentration camps from either. Read the suffering of the women and children in the Boer War Concentration Camps as well.

      • Zarabanda

        The Spaniards were the first to use concentration camps – in Cuba. The Yanks copied them in the Philippines.

    • QV3

      Blame Congress for that. They hate everything Indian, Hindu, and installed white skin to be their president. The daughter of a Nazi conspirator, at that.

    • Pincho13

      Conveniently re edited …

  • Farida Majid

    The
    amazing story of how, the fertile land that was described as the “richest
    kingdom in the world” by one of the British officials reporting the
    unusual causes of the first famine in 1770, was turned into the land of
    famous Bengal Famines! “All famines are man-made” is the theory arrived at by Amartya Sen, the Bengali Nobel Laureate economist who only had to study the Bengal famines.

    • Jahir Ahmed

      Thanks for the valuable comments on the ‘Bengal Famines’ that was never exposed with all its elements. Person like Amartya Sen should focus on the economy of the pre and post takeover year of 1757 in India by the British colonial empire.

    • QV3

      The British were into opium trade. Bengal was nearest to China which the filthy Brits wanted to invade but found fierce resistance. The only way to subdue the Chinese was opium. Bengal at any given time had the most fertile land and was known as the ‘breadbasket’ of India. What the British did, according to the book HOMO FABER by Claude Alvares was , the British cut the thumbs of Bengali weavers and forced them into farming opium. They were not allowed even to grow vegetables in their own tiny plot of land. British officers whipped the entire family, including children, if any family was found having planted vegetables for food.
      The article touches on the vagaries of the climate and drought and rains. But {{in Bengal, dykes were the usual respnse to floods, and tanks and reservoirs stored water if rains proved scarce. Wells were a common feature; even to today. Where there were no rivers, deep exensive tanks, measuring three to fur hundred feet at their sides, were constructed , with a short temple alongside for adornment. }} page 54 of Homo Faber.
      The British, in a word, are still Savage Barbarians. With a yen for murder and plunder. 5 centuries of invade, murder, plunder, colonise is enough history to make anyone with an iota of human decency puke and curse the British for eternity.
      So it is heartenng to read that in Britain today, Starvation hits one in three families. Karma payback is a bitch!

      • SweetMarmot

        No, that’s not heartening. Today’s Brits are a different generation. If the individual Brits who didn’t care and whose policies made the famines starved and died, THAT would be pay back. But for them to stuff their faces, while their policies starved others, is NOT payback. Well , I guess those individual Brits had to die and go to hell for their payback.

        • QV3

          The sins of the fathers visit unto the children for a thousand years. Law of karma. Succeeding generations of Britons did not fight the atrocities the empire implemented as policy in its colonies. And thus shares the blame and the curse.
          Man’s law can be perveted, twisted, but not the Universal Law of Cause and Effect. Its very exacting and very precise.
          And this is what is happening in Britain today. Back to Victorian times, workhouses, poorhouses, and many Oliver Twists abound. The Division of Class is very much cemented n Britain, I am afraid. The Establishment will always win.

  • alexsubway

    Just the same ruling elite making cash from everyones suffering ; its not the British people its the elites

    • Андрей Аккелин

      Its british because , when the elites did their thing, rest of the british kept quiet .

      • pbody Mathis

        What she means it is not all British. Americans, Europeans, Russians, China, etc. are all involved in making as much money for themselves at the cost of their countrymen or other countrymen. They do not care if a few million die along the way. It will get worse in the coming years as we head into the period of tribulation (last 7 years of life on this planet before the Christ returns).

    • Mark Lawrence

      Thank you

  • Jahir Ahmed

    The history of the British rule in India should be re-written objectively. The time has come to do this. The world must know the hidden truth.

    • Shadow

      I read through these stuff before, and the Irony is, I am not saying all but sadly most a** liking Hindus claim it was Muslims?? I never understood what’s going on for a start until I read Gandhi’s thoughts on Islam, then I recognized what’s going on! Gandhi and Mandela gave everything up for their nations to be free, they both stand for Palestine and respect the idea of Islam!

      • Jahir Ahmed

        In future Asia a nation’s divide by religious divide will be reduced to nearly zero, when the education and economy will upgrade the people socially and politically.

    • Reader

      I’d recommend the British Rule to be brought back to India. Either way, we are following most of the Rules set by the British Empire, which have not been amended for the past over 60 years.

      • Kamil Mian

        And allow every Indian to migrate to Britain except you.

        • Reader

          Why would anybody want to go to Britain, when India by itself would be British India, rather than Bikhari India.

          • QV3

            Shame on you.

          • khem karan

            shame on u rather

          • QV3

            Lobotomised Down Syndrome shameless primate.

          • Ghostwriter

            That is a disgusting comment about people with Down Syndrome. You are a disgrace.

          • QV3

            Don’t be a HYPOCRITE.

          • Alexis Fletcher

            there but for the grace of God go high… hope you never eat your words here with downs syndrome children or grandchildren in the future

          • QV3

            No. Down Syndrome is for the generational psychopaths who invaded, murdered, and plundered its colonies, and created famines so the filth scums of Britain could profit. Scum . So Starvation in Britain, screams the new MP in Parliament.
            Your muslims are birthing many Down Syndromes for you lot to enjoy.

        • Alexis Fletcher

          There’s a lot of Indians who have settled in Britain.. we got some great restaurants nowadays 🙂

          • QV3

            There’s also more muslims in Britain that is turning your young girls into Whores on the Sex Slavery Chain, after being raped savagely. Call it karma.

      • whomedoyou

        Sure and this time all the money from Britain can come back to where it was stolen from.

        • Reader

          Lets start from the the Bandits stationed at home, lets ask our legislators to bring back all the money stolen from the Indian treassury

          • whomedoyou

            Both can be done at the same time. But the dues from Britain are long overdue. So the Britons should start first.

          • Reader

            Digging out old records and finding the REAL BENEFICIARIES of the Loot Money would be difficult, therefore, we should start settling the Looted money by our own Legislators first.

          • whomedoyou

            I disagree. For example the kohinoor diamond would be a fair starting point. They can fabricate diamonds nowadays – they just have to replace it and hand back the original.

          • Reader

            As far as Kohinoor and Reparations from Britain is concerned, that’s a good
            point, but now handing 6 TRILLION POUNDS to the Indian Politicians would be
            like handing the keys of the World Bank
            Vault to IDI AMIN. Further Koh-i-noor
            or the Diamond of Babur as it is also called was found in Andhra Pradesh, we will never be
            able to find the actual Finder of the Diamond, but we can figure out those who
            had claimed it for whatever period in its life-time, before finally India
            manages to get it back to be put into the Dirty Dusty Museums of Delhi.

          • whomedoyou

            Not at all the World Bank – Britain is hardly the country to leave those reparations back in. That’s like leaving money owed to the Indians in the hands of fat and creepy old Henry VIII types while they get away into the night like thieves. They shouldn’t be let off for their despicable crimes against Indians. You stop worrying about where its going to put, anywhere in India is better than in the crown of that old hag of a queen they roll in front of like sycophants.

          • Reader

            Have you heard of MAGNA CARTA, hope you realize that it was Britain that gifted to the world the first documented rights of a Citizen, unlike the FEUDAL Minded Cannibals from India.

          • whomedoyou

            Gifted – pfft – get off your high horse about Britain. India gave the world the numbering system and the zero, your so called modernity was a failure from the start without it.
            Britain also gave the world more than half the conflicts in the world by drawing up post colonial boundaries nobody wants to recognize. Oh yeah and thanks for sponsoring the latest major conflict in the Middle East that lead to ISIS.

          • Reader

            For any civilization to
            survive, once it has reached its pinnacle, has to travel beyond its borders. So did the British Empire, 300 to 400 years
            back. The only mistake the British
            Empire committed was to correct the wrong the world around it was doing, the
            intention was to Shape up the world with some disciplined civilized citizens. To a large extent they successfully managed
            to correct a lot of wrongs in the world and standardized to British Standards
            limit.

            The British Empire and
            its legacy can be summed up below :
            Unlike the Spanish/Portugese, the British never had a Religious Agenda,
            they were TRADERS, they implemented Trade and Commerce, Export and Import,
            built Infrastructure and Cities, removed
            Widow Burning (Saati), Removal of Devdasi system ie. the Temple girls used for
            Dancing to lure the Kings and later reused as prostitutes, Removed Bonded Labour, Removed Feudalism,
            Introduced English Language and thereby Indians understood the meaning of
            FREEDOM & DEMOCRACY, such two words never existed prior to the British
            Arrived in India. The best Architectural
            Buildings, Dams (Including Mullaperiyar) and infrastructure were built by the
            British. The allegation of force-able religious
            conversion is simply naïve, this is mostly said by those, who want to split the
            people further, only the
            Underprivileged, disadvantaged and outcasts of that era, were introduced to
            Christianity, which became part of the Church of England/India. Whereas, those from the Royal Families &
            the Elite among the Indians were considered to be part of the Army, especially
            the Officer cadre ie. to maintain the HIERARCHY. Indians were never dragged into the WW-II. Be thankful to the British Raj for
            disciplining the Indian Society and to fight for a cause and fight for the
            country, with their Heads Straight. After
            joining the Royal British-Indian Army or any Army for that matter, you are
            supposed to fight for the country and follow the orders from the President, in
            this case it was the Queen of England, who was the Head of the Indian
            dominion. ENGLISH language is one of the
            greatest legacy that the British left behind.
            Every Elite Indian can be proud that he speaks the Most Cultured and Civilized language on Earth.
            Indians speak better English compared to any other national – be in Arab or
            from Africa, non-Indians speak with a heavy accent of their country/continent,
            however, Indians speak English in the clearest manner that the World can
            understand, which has made Indians in great demand in the International Job
            Market. Not only due the Indians’ skill of English language, but also due to the
            ever dislike towards fellow Indian on Regional Racial and Ethnic background,
            which makes Indians the Best Variety of Nationals to be Divided and Ruled to
            the Best Advantage of the Employers.

            Thanks to the British Empire
            for getting rid of the Mughals and handing India back to Indians. Otherwise we would have still been paying
            JAZIYA TAX. Unification of the Smaller
            & weak Indian Kingdoms and Princely States (fighting among each other) to
            form worlds largest Democracy. Had the
            British not unified India, India would have been a Muslim country at least a
            100 years back, due to the small and weak Army possessed by these Little
            Kingdoms.

            The
            strictest form of this religion would invite and attract young recruits to have
            the thrill of running over helpless people, Modern World considers women to get
            educated, we respect them for like our
            mothers and sisters, however the agenda of the strictest form of this religion
            is to dominate the weak, killing the men and raping the women,
            multiplying and outnumbering other religious and races and ofcourse enslaving
            the children of the captives.

            The Bandits who took
            over from the British Raj rejuvenated the FEUDAL society of their fore-fathers – SAMANTHWAADI Pratha, that the British got
            rid of, the remnants of such FEUDAL approach remains in the minds of the
            off-springs of their forefathers ie. todays Generation, and has gripped the
            Indian society in full.

            Free and Fair Trade and
            Basic Capitalist Economy and Openness to Foreign Investment and Imports,
            allowed Indians to get to know the Qualitative products around the world.

            The British were never
            chased out of India, in fact, the British were needed back home to fight the
            German army, besides it was difficult to manage an empire extending to
            one-third of the Planet Earth and therefore left India on their own, ofcourse they had employed some dummies whose
            Mug-shots are hanging in the Indian Parliament and the Kothwalis of India. Though we still believe it was the job of a
            few bunch of Gang Leaders of the Stone Pelters during the early late 1800s.

            Cricket that runs thru
            the veins of everyone from the Indian sub-continent, is a gift from the British
            Empire.

            Even the National Anthem of India was put into a proper Band
            and its notations were done by Irish Poet James H Cousins wife Margeret as a Prayer Song in Praise of God. The notations are carried till this day.

            On the evening
            of 28 February 1919 TAGORE joined a gathering of students and upon Cousins’
            request, sang the Jana Gana Mana in Bengali. The college authorities, greatly
            impressed by the lofty ideals of the song and the praise to God, selected it as
            their prayer song. In the days that followed, enchanted by the dreamy hills of
            Madanapalle, Tagore wrote down the English translation of the song and along
            with Cousins’ wife, Margaret (an expert in Western music), set down the
            notation which is followed till this day. The song was carried beyond the
            borders of India by the college students and became The Morning Song of India and subsequently the national anthem

            The National Anthem of India is
            played or sung on various occasions.

            Controversy shadowed Jana Gana Mana from the day of its first
            rendition in 1911 at the Congress session in Calcutta. King George V was scheduled to arrive in the city on 30 December and reported
            – that Tagore’s hymn was a homage to the emperor

            Today, Britain is
            completely Multi-cultural and you will find yourself more like in Cannaught
            Place – Delhi than in London, seeing the no. of Asians and Arabs in the
            streets. British are the most
            non-racist people I have met, besides, they carry the regrets & guilt from
            the past of any wrong-doings of their forefathers, just as the Americans and the Germans, do for
            the dark pages of their history. However,
            that does not stop them from being rightly proud of citizens of a country that tried to unify all nations
            into equality and democracy.

            Had the British remained
            in India, India would have been a Lot of Disciplined and Prosperous country. God Save the Queen.

          • Moeiz HaLari

            That is because they are so ungodly!
            Thank you for accepting the fact!

          • Moeiz HaLari

            “Any civilization to survive once it has reached its pinnacle, has to travel beyond its border”
            What a load of rubbish…where did you learn that? And what do you mean by “has reached its pinnacle”?
            Also, therefore, are you saying your good old GB would not have survived had it not imposed itself on India!

          • Gina

            Us Americans fought two wars against the stupid “English”, and won them both, with the help of the French and Germans! Yet, the “English” dominate Hollywood like it is their own, but unknown to them it is their low pay that provides the attraction. Now they depend on America to bail them out of any mess, like so many other nations, but India appears capable of caring for itself to some degree. We, the People, no longer speak the “Queen’s English”, but speak the American Language, we do not even understand those who do!

          • Moeiz HaLari

            To Reader, on behalf of “whomedoyou”. Brits should thank God that the Indians were “Vegetarians” and NOT ”Cannibals”. Otherwise they would have eaten you alive and GB would be the poorest country on the face of this earth!

          • Reader

            Indians were actually Cannibals from the PURANAS DAYS. You read it, Sehdeva ate his father’s brain, literally! When Pandu, the father of the Pandavas, was about to die, he wished for his sons to partake of his brain so that they inherit his wisdom and knowledge. Only Sahadeva paid heed, though; it is said that with the first bite of his father’s brain, he gained knowledge of all that had happened in the universe. With the second he gained knowledge of the present happenings, and with the third he came to know of all that would occur in the future.

          • Moeiz HaLari

            Of course that was before the Britis made a lucky turn and discovered India…every society in the world ate meat before discovery of agriculture…it does not require a brain surgeon like yo to educate others.

          • Reader

            So you agree that the Indians were cannibals before the advent of the british raj. As it is evident from the puranas the Holiest of the Holy Granthas of the Hindus

          • Moeiz HaLari

            Anybody with three grey cells functioning knows that prehistoric man was “hunter and gather”. Though that is not the same as “cannibalism”. It seems, thru the behaviour of the emperial Britain, it stayed cannibalistic, in action and deeds.

          • Reader

            It is not pre-historic man I have referred to, it is the most advanced form of Indian civilization of ‘The Golden Age of Puranas’, which has documented an Indian cannibalising his own father, out of superstitious belief.

          • Moeiz HaLari

            Sure, but here we are speaking of Indian population during the British Invasion and not thousands of years before that!

          • Reader

            It doesn’t categorize the Indians ‘NOT CANNIBALS’. And there is no Historical Record of CANNIBAL from the British Raj.

          • Moeiz HaLari

            Come again please! My be my language skills are poor, please explain again!

          • Reader

            Read again, English is a Technical and Scientific language.

          • Moeiz HaLari

            You are right it is just too technical and scientific for the folks of thirld world countries!

          • Reader

            Very much like your name.. A Real Raghead

          • Moeiz HaLari

            You don’t even have guts to put your name. What are you hiding? Are you a bastard child of some unkown British civil servant?
            Your arguments has really enlightened me that I agree with everything you have written so far.
            The biggest thing I learnt is that, the British empire was based on generocity, kindness and only had altruistic motives. They were only trying to bring civilization ,education and other modern things to the world.
            And that world has been so so ungreatful.
            I suppose that is why, when they left some countries, had attained virtually a little bit above ZERO education level!
            But they certainly did a fine job on you!

          • Reader

            Indeed you are from the Religion of Piece, I am glad the Israelites are fucking you left and right top and bottom – You terrorist Palistins, born to the pedo, rapist of a six year of girl, the only attraction you and your religion is that you can fuck around and rape, abduct and impregnate innocent girls, turn them into sex toys share among you nomad rag-heads. Wait you bastards, we Indians along with British and Americans are fucking to the best way we can. Look at your religion, there is nothing left, we have destroyed, everyone of your from Morrocco to Pakistan. There is none among you who can stand straight in front of us.

          • Moeiz HaLari

            First of all, I am not a Muslim and even if I was, what does the topic on Famine amd Raj, got to do with Religion, Israel, Terrorism, etc etc!
            You it seems, cannot communicate with objectivity and rational or without insulting!
            Well I feel for you and wish you luck!

          • Reader

            You used the B word first. Moreover, your Name indeed sounds otherwise though, unless you have been rejected by the Whites as Not White enough and stay in some remote place like Tanzania.

          • Moeiz HaLari

            I used that word, only after you have been using some insulting and awful language to others and to a lesser extent to myself.
            On further reflection, I agree with you, one should not stoop down to your level.
            By the way please learn how to spell the word ‘peace’ and some other words…doesn’t look good or reflect well on somebody who is in love with the scientific and technologically advance language!

          • Reader

            I didnt use any insulting language on you, tell me which one, if at all I used a foul language on others, why did you pick it up. By the way please learn the meaning of RELIGION OF PIECE, Hope now you understand English is a Scientifically and Technically advanced language which is evolved from the combination of all the world languages. The word ALPHABET itself is a combination of ALPHA ie. First and BETH ie. Home in Hebrew language. That is to say THE FIRST EDUCATION YOU HAVE IS AT HOME.

          • Moeiz HaLari

            I suppose you think the word “raghead” is a normal and a polite word! No wonder the Brits, commonly used that word for Indians!
            But above all, I have agreed with you, one should not argue with a fool, incase, others are not be able to tell the differnce.
            And, by the way “peace” is not spelt “piece”.
            I can see your “Home” has taught you well. Is your father English and also speaks Hebrew?

          • Reader

            Your natural hate of Jews, is evident from your name and response. So be careful, we are there everywhere, and can pick up you at will. Having said that, Piece is the piece at which you and your religion is left with, and not the Peace on Earth generally modern man talks about.

          • Moeiz HaLari

            My natural hate for Jews! I don,t hate anybody becuse of his or her religion. judge people individually. I am not fan of any person who has perverted sense of fairness and justice.
            And once again thank-you for for enlightenment on Enlish language!

          • BG Davis

            MHL,
            You are making the error of attempting rational discourse with a sick mind. It can be a good exercise of reasoning and expository skills but of course it is fruitless.

          • BG Davis

            Reader,
            You really should change your meds. You have now abandoned all pretense of rationality. I’m telling you this as a concerned human.

          • GKrish

            Reader uses his impressive language skills, great ‘imagination’ and unparalleled ‘wisdom’ to ‘prove’ that Indians were cannibals in a mythological Golden Age. This has no relevance to the article, which deals with the noble British forces and their then Prime Minister trying to kill as many Indians as possible through a man-made famine. However, it may interest Reader and other readers to know that Britain has no law against cannibalism. Rick Gibson, a Canadian artist, actually took advantage of this to eat parts of a human body in public between 1988 and 1990, and got away without even being charged. Perhaps, this too is a consequence of the Magna Carta to which Reader refers in such glowing terms.

          • BG Davis

            Reader,
            Another symptom of bigotry is knee-jerk attribution of concepts you can’t grasp with whomever you have decided is The Enemy. In this case, you quickly decided–based on zero evidence–that Moeiz was not only a Muslim, but a “Palistin” (whatever that may be).
            In fact, Moeiz is neither.
            The good news is that your rantings have passed from the irritating to the amusing. It’s always fun to watch a bigot make a fool of him/herself.

          • BG Davis

            Reader,
            Like all bigots, you ended up revealing the real reason for your fatuous claims. Thank you!

          • Saif

            English is patently not a technical language! It’s an orphan!

          • Reader

            Orphan means someone who has no parents. For your information, the word ALPHABET is derived from the HEBREW Word ALPHA and BETH, wherein Alpha ie. Alif means FIRST, and BETH means Home ie. The First Education you get is from Home. Now as long as you believe, an Orphan doesnt have a HOME or born to a GOOD PARENT, I’d say you are well within your rights to retain your ignorance and live in dark ages.

          • BG Davis

            Just as the New Testament has documented Christians cannibalizing their own Messiah, out of superstitious belief. Or what a less biased and less ignorant person would call symbolism.

          • Saif

            Good argument. One person from amongst tens of billions spread over centuries eats his father’s brains which the father himself wished while dying, and that too not to fill his son;s stomach but to grant him wisdom and knowledge. Suddenly, each and everyone in the subcontinent is a cannibal! As I said, that is a good argument.

          • BG Davis

            Just as Christians have been cannibals since the Last Supper, as is evident from the Scriptures the Holiest of the Holy Writings of the Christians.
            Reader, you are truly hors de categorie.

          • BG Davis

            Wow, Reader,
            Christians are actually cannibals! “Take and eat; this is my body…” (Matthew 26:26)
            You might want to learn a bit about symbolism before starting on another cultural superiority binge.

          • Nagar Iyer

            In the 1700s, the percentage of educated in India was more than 90%. This is not my statement.
            This is the part of a report given by Macaulay to the British Government. The report further states:
            The Education included: Architecture, Medicine, Engineering
            Looking into the several thousand temples in India (especially the south), the report seems to be just
            A British

          • Reader

            After centuries of exploitation in the Home-bred and Home-grown helpless and hapless FEUDAL SERFS mentality of the Indians of all the LOWER CASTS ie. INFERIOR BREED of Indians, added with the non-interaction with the outside civilized world, the Serfs accepted their misery as a Fait-Acompli, and happily accepted the HANDOUT given by the UPPER CASTS as GIFT OF GOD. Mcauly found it amazing that the Lower Cast Indians are brain-washed to such an extent that they would not even like to be corrected and educated of their rights. Todays’s Indians might like to call it SELF-RELIANCE, but modern man terms it IN-HUMAN EXPLOITATION.
            Coming to the Temples of South India, thats an altogether different subject, but briefly speaking, as I believe the Temples of South India, especially the THIRUPATHI was a landing spot of the E.Ts, our ancestors from the distant past, out of ignorance termed the E.Ts as Gods, due to the numerous powers that the E.Ts had in them, as they came from outer solar systems or sometimes from even a different advanced galaxy. To be specific, look at the Swamy’s image in Thirupathi, his forehead is having a Thilak – this is FIRST SPOT a person looks at, He has Lamps in his hands – This is the transmitters he is using to communicate with his boss or the Supreme-God, Ear-studs – This is the Transmitter to listen to the distant echo sounds etc. Nose-studs – This is the Test the Odour in the surroundings, Five Finger Rings & Bangles – To first do a analysis of the material picked, Five Finger Rings & Leg Bangles – To test the Soil condition and Pore pressure etc.

          • BG Davis

            The Magna Carta gave no rights to ordinary citizens, merely to a handful of autocrats, who preferred to extort and abuse the citizens themselves rather than by the king’s leave. The Brit nobility has done a masterful job of conning the English-speaking world into thinking that they invented modern democracy, when GB has always been about class and dominance over the “ordinary” man, with empire and exploitation abroad.

          • Saif

            And you wanted Indians to learn how to debate…. Is this really how one debates?

          • Reader

            I partly agree with you, we can get Britain to pay us in kind. We can request them to start some good Schools of British Standards, so that Indians learn to Debate in a civilized manner than the way do in the Indian parliament. Having said that, I’d say that an UNEDUCATED Indian is far more civilized and cultured than an EDUCATED Indian.

          • Saif

            You sound like Macaulay!

          • whomedoyou

            Whats a finder of a diamond ? It was stolen out of the country by those nasty Brits.

          • Reader

            Finder means the actual Miner who discovered it. ‘Stolen Out of the Country’? Was India as we call it today existing those days. It is the British Raj that unified the small and little kingdoms spread across all over the Indian sub-continent every 30 kms, gave Indians a country to be so proud of, otherwise it would have still been ruled by the Mughals and Custodians of India would have still been paying JAZIYA TAX.

          • whomedoyou

            You want to be accurate – the Kohinoor was stolen from sub-continental lands. The diamond was found and owned by a leader of the sub-continent, its not like the people on the sub-continent didn’t know about jewels before the Brits came along.

            Well maybe you should have unified Europe instead which is also small little kingdoms every few kilometers. The sub-continent was just fine before the English came along and plundered it willy nilly for your own benefit.

            Lose your patronizing attitude and stop being so pretentious. As for you – if you love Britain that much go there and stay there.

          • Reader

            Lets re-enact the scene, Stolen means, some white man invaded the Palace of One of your favourite Mughal emperor’s and got hold of the safe, where the TURBAN (As Indians dont have Felt-Hat) to cover their closed minds, is kept and plucked out the Kohinoor and left the Rag without any markings and sailed to the UK. Can the Indians prove that the Kohinoor was not sold or given in exchange of some Rupees as Retirement benefit for the King.
            Europe is a highly evolved continent, dont compare your medieval mind-set to a highly advanced civilization, you would even call a sweeper from switzerland as SIR, as any skin white enough is great for Indians.
            Indians were not fit to exploit their own lands, and the Western powers came and exploited the natural and human resources, much the same way the Indian politicians are exploiting and raping the Indian public (though one of your Legislators considers Rape as ‘Minor Mistake of the Boys’ as quoted by him and he even cannot believe in a Gang Rape by Four men – which is quite rightly understandable, as he wont give others a chance.
            It is not the Love for Britain that I am write to you, I am just trying to make you understand that the mind-set of Todays Legislators of India and the mind-set of the 17th century colonizers of India, is not much different.

          • Ali

            Kohinoor wasn’t simply stolen, it was taken away under the “British Rule” a sensible person will understand without any proof. The rebels of that time were against it and they wanted to take it back, with that threat in mind the government felt it insecure for that valuable stone’s presence in the sub-continent and handed over to the rulers.

            Europe highly evolved continent? Overstated! The Europe has just begun in adopting multiculturism as compared to the sub-continent alone which has been evolving this way for decades. Even today the worlds top horses are trained in the sub-continent. You will find natives here of different minds, backgrounds, lifestyles and looks. In fact sub-continent isn’t a continent which we are comparing to. I appreciate the technology Europe possess today but that doesn’t mean that it is the super continent. None is higher than any continent.

            Why there was a need of western rulers to come over to sub-continent, colonize the region and implement their own laws? Were they not happy with the discovery of Americas alone? The invasion had been going on since the time of Greeks.

          • alternative_perspective

            Britain originally had a collection of small trading outposts dotted along the coast lines of India. As trade increased so did piracy. To stop the piracy small platoons of soldiers were stationed at these trading posts. Eventually local leaders enlisted the help of these trading posts and soldiers for their own purposes. These trading posts grew in size, wealth and thence power. Eventually entire states were administered by what were in effect private companies with armies: not because they conquered them but because they were employed by local kings. Eventually though these private companies became competitors, virtual kingdoms almost, to the various native kings and competed for territory and influence like any other kingdom as promises, treaties and contracts were made and broken between the various local kings and competing European powers.
            Eventually the largest of these companies emerged victorious enjoying a near monopoly: the East India Trading Company. Ultimately its was still only a trading company and incapable of managing the vast tracts of lands effectively. Consequently it completely manhandled the 1770 famine. This clearly led to mass starvation, resentment in the UK and ultimately financial crisis. And like the various banks in 2007 was deemed to “big to fail” and was bailed out by the British government. By that time the EITC administered huge areas of the sub-continent. Effectively the nationalisation of the company gave Britain, one sovereign nation control over huge swathes of the sub-continent and therefore also many various kingdoms.
            Accidentally almost, Britain became the most powerful nation in India. At that point the British started to import its legal system and systems of state to administer the emerging Empire: the Raj.
            As for the various famines up to the 20thC I cannot comment but during 1943 the Battle of the Atlantic was raging. Britain was on the verge of being broken and couldn’t spare more shipping. Moreover if you do a bit of research you’ll discover various contemporary commenters blaming local administrators for corruption and inter-religious strife for the famine. Though obviously its easier and politically favourable to point fingers at the foreign white man rather than confronting real issues at home.

          • Erwin Alber

            It’s the way things went, – how the cookie crumbled as he saying goes. There is no turning back the clock but events can certainly be examined and discussed to heal old wounds.

          • QV3

            The mind-set of today’s legislators of India being in colonised, colonial mode is because of the disgusting syphillis stricken Nehru who betrayed Indians while sniffing and following Edwina Mountbatten till she left the shores of India. The Harrow educated failure failed India badly, and perpetuated by that bitch from the Vatican called Sonia.

          • QV3

            You need to study Indian history. It was the Marathas who broke the back of the mughal empire, not the British.

          • Reader

            Can you name the person who stole it,
            Do you have any witnesses
            May be it was one of the Indians who handed it to the Brit who bribed him. Indians of those years, wouldnt be much different than what we have today.
            What if Britain produces a receipt for the transaction that took place in the Palace of the Mughal emperor

          • SuperGoyem

            The kohinoor diamond belongs to the Persians , you prat.

          • whomedoyou

            You have no clue what you’re talking about you wind up merchant. Go back under your rock where you belong.

          • whomedoyou

            How is one even supposed to respond to such ignorance? If you supposedly think invaders should be allowed to lay claim on stolen property – go argue with Reader.

          • Bina Svensson

            The cave where the kohinoor was in is called golkonda, it is somewhere near Hyderabad. Hyderabad is in India not Iran!

          • uzi

            i also have read that the Kohinoor diamond belongs to Iran which was stolen by Indian rulers from Iran and taken it to India .

          • SuperGoyem

            Yeah , but we fairly stole it!

          • Sheza

            “fairly stole it” Now that IS funny

          • LICKERthegreat

            Why not raaaape the legislatures. One by one, let us kill them. What stupiiid logic of yours.
            The people DESERVE the leaders.

      • rooan

        WTF! first have the guts to put your name up for display…secondly if you so love brit ass by all means go ahead and keep licking it..!!!

        • Reader

          What makes you feel I am licking the Brit ass. In the last almost 70 years, are you happy with the kind and pace of development that such a resourceful and naturally rich country has to see ? The British Raj committed far less amount of damage to India when compared to the present and past democratically elected criminals of India sitting and chatting in the Parliament.

          • Kelley Hammerson

            Good point

          • Reader

            Besides, had the British Raj remaind in India, Indians would have been a lot more honourable people than today. Indian education is such a decayed one that, we have IPS and IAS officers who are willing to tie the Shoe Lace of the Illiterate Criminal Legislators and they are the Best A55 Lickers of India than the Uneducated but Honourable people of rest of India.

          • Muaah

            The only reason its happening, because Brits made sure while leaving this country with Gandhi, Nehru and Jinnah that we all (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka) will see such fate.
            I can not say about other countries right now, but we now have a real leader (obviously no gandhi, no nehru and no jinnah) who can make my India a better place.
            Sometime I wish I could go back in time and make people of then India aware what these m***er fu**ker were going to do to my country that a citizen of a country (size not bigger than our small state) could come up and say things like that.

          • Reader

            Even the Star of our own solar system The Sun, was stolen by the British Raj and they lost it in the Sea of Japan on the way back home to the UK while using a longer route for misleading the Indians and escaping. A lot of money is collected in the form of Investment in Indian, perhaps to the tune of BILLIONS OF DOLLARS INVESTMENT, but, nothing is appearing to change in the face of the Indians, the streets are still dirty, the police force is still CHEWING PAAN and spitting around in Delhi, no. of Rapes, molestations etc. are going higher and higher, though one of the Legislators recently said, its not possible for do a GANG RAPE, he was rightly so, for he will not allow others or give a chance to others.
            You can thank the British Raj for unifying the small and little kingdoms every 35 kms, and handing India back to the Indians and ofcourse getting rid of the Mughals, otherwise you would have still been paying JAZIYA TAX, and Trains would have arrived NOW in 2015.

          • Alexis Fletcher

            Hear Hear…Well said

          • Reader

            Your sir-name reminds me of Late Mr.George Fletcher I used to work with till 2002. Are you anyway related to him.

          • Alexis Fletcher

            Possibly. My grandfather and an uncle were both called George Fletcher. My uncle passed about 5 years ago. My hometown was Liverpool but I haven’t lived there for a good few years now. Was the George Fletcher you worked with from Liverpool?

          • Reader

            Actually Mr.George Fletcher I am referring to used to be in Abu Dhabi and his wife’s name was Lynn. I had accompanied his wife to the Hospital during those trying times for them.

        • Alexis Fletcher

          As a British citizen myself, I would like to say that my father.. who loved to talk about WW2, also used to say that Churchill was an excellent war leader but an absolute toerag in every other area. However, the point I would like to elaborate on, is that I visited India a couple of years ago. I must say I felt very welcome there, marveled at the culture, colours and sights. Enjoyed the food and even the Indian music. Was amazed at the plants and trees I saw. BUT, how sad to see whole families with nothing living on the streets and nobody cared. Immensely rich next to immensely poor. India don’t give a hoot about the quality of life and lack of education and basic needs of these people. I saw new babies living on the streets. This is today…. not 100 years ago when the British Empire was at it’s peak. Today, 21st century.. India don’t seem to give a hoot about it’s people, so maybe look at what you can do NOW to help your own instead of dwelling on 100 years ago. Britain was whacked by the Vikings etc in its own history but we don’t hold any grudge against Scandinavians!!

          • Rici

            We were taught a distorted history by education depp dominated by communist dogs/Congress goons hence Most of the people in India don’t know about these horrible things. However, we are knowing with the spread of internet. History was taught to us if British rabid dogs were some sort of benevolent lot.

          • Alexis Fletcher

            Of course I can see where your bitterness has come from. I agree as a Brit that our ancestors did terrible things to lesser developed countries in the world in it’s history. They did also develop many of these countries with roads, railways, education… hence,, for their own gain I agree.. But, these were decisions made from government and nothing to do with the average person in the street.. If you know anything about British history apart from Henry VIII, you would know that the Brits did lots of wrong doings to their own people during these times such as emptying orphanages out and sending these kids to Canada, Australia etc to build up the colonies among other things… However, I don’t think that India is free of corruption now the Brits have gone and your own are in charge. India was the first developing country I had been to at the time I visited. I was humbled by how friendly the people who lived on the street were to me. I was getting in bed choked at night by things I was seeing during the day. People trying so hard to survive. The get out card for most Indians I discussed this with was… the parents send the kids out begging and are okay for money… yet I saw whole families living behind public toilets. Surely if these people had lots of money they would’t choose to live that way.
            Seems as though you got rid of the British corruption, and replaced it with Indian corruption. How sad to do this to your own people. Would the rich of India agree to a welfare state??? Hopefully in the future

          • Reader

            Indians, mostly Hindus love to act Anti-British when they join hands with their muslim cousins, in fact, these guys are using the muslims to hit the British, for the old animosity they have towards the British, and the main reason is not Colonialism, but it is Self-hatred-ness. Hindus dont find themselves as vocal and smart as the British educated people are, and thats the inferiority complex, they carry which turns out to be anti-british.

          • Indian

            That’t not true.

            1- Leave alone Hindu or muslim here, every average indian is far far smarter than any brit in any way. reply me I will give you detailed proof.

            2- Not only Hindu but Muslims also from India should hatred towards you & Britain. Because you just tried Hindu-Muslim kind of thing which East India Company & your fucked up king did when they arrived here.
            3- You stole everything from us, you used our resources that too without a shred of shame you have guts to speak Hindu Muslim here in this forum.

            We certainly have our differences, but we stand united when it comes to the pride of our country.

          • Reader

            1. Never can a Brit beat the Crooks of India irrespective of religion or race, Indian crooks are far more shrewder than the Brits. Having said that, it was the Brits who broke the back of the Crooks of India to introduce Equality among Indians from the FOUR TIRE CAST SYSTEM, which has put you in the dock among the SHUDRAS ie. All Equal Indians, ie. a Racism unmatching International Standards. Though, todays India is far more divided than the Four Tire Cast System, to the tune of the no. of spikes dividing the Ashoka Chakra Wheel thats in the centre of the Flag of Patriotism which by itself is a division into the so called Unified relationship of the Hindus and Muslims viz a viz Snake & Mangoos ie. Safron for Hindus, Green for Muslims the White is the confused mind of the Indians which is taking a 360 deg. spin of the Ashoka Chakra, and the Spikes in the wheel depicting the no. of reasons Every Indian finds to differentiate from a fellow Indian.
            2. Your unity among the Indians is quite visible, when it comes to ensuring the Apartments in Bombay which restrict the Flats to be sold even to fellow Hindus if they are not Brahmins, much less to talk about handing to the Muslims.
            3. The real Looters are the 795 Legislators sitting in your Parliament (Both Lok Sabha & Rajya Sabha – the system itself is a copy of the British Parliament of Upper House and Lower House), each seat costs crores of Ruppaiah. No. of Zeros in the crores looted from the Indian public, would reach cosmic level of Light years. I’d suggest that, henceforth the loot amount of the Indian legislators should be declared in LIGHT-YEARS ie. Rs.1,000 crore Light years. Further the Indian legislators have looted far more than what you claim to be looted by the British Raj.

          • Strodensky

            It was the German Jewish professor Lindemann(1st Viscount Cherwell), Winston Churchill’s best buddy behind the famine.
            Fearing food shortages in Britain, he convinced Churchill to divert 56% of the UK merchant ships operating in the Indian Ocean over to the Atlantic, a move that added two million tons of wheat as well as raw materials for war fighting to Britain’s stockpile. This meant that few ships would be available to carry wheat from Australia to India. Churchill’s Ministry of War Transport warned that such dramatic cuts to shipping capacity in South East Asia would “portend violent changes and perhaps cataclysms in the seaborne trade of large numbers of countries” but was ignored. The “menace of famine suddenly loomed up like a hydra-headed monster with a hundred clamouring mouths,” according to C.B.A. Behrens in the official history of wartime British shipping. It has been estimated between 1.5 and 4 million people in the Bengal died from famine, while Britain’s stockpile of food and raw materials by the end of 1943 totaled 18.5 million tons, greater than ever before. Cherwell and Churchill’s policies contributed heavilly to the severity of the famine. Other British colonies on the Indian Ocean, including Kenya, Tanganyika and British Somaliland, suffered famine that year as well.

          • Observer

            Yes, of course, the “German Jewish professor”. Blame the Jews for the famine in India as well.

          • Moeiz HaLari

            Don’t those photos look very similar to holocaust pictures…which gets spread around very generously! Of course everybody knows that holocaust has been used as a marketing tool and to generate sympathy for Jews.
            If Germans are paying reparations, shouldn’t Brits have to do the same for WWll Bengal starvation?

          • Kristofer Quadros

            Pay whom? I am still to get the 2 lakhs I was promised recently from Swiss banks.

          • Strodensky

            No I don’t blame Jews for the famine in India. I just did tell that the mastermind behind the man-made tragedy in India durin WWII, was professor Lindemann. In every nation there are both good and evil people. You don’t need to be hypersensitive.

          • Kristofer Quadros

            Exactly. If he is German Jew he is German Jew. If Anglo Saxon then so be it. If Muslim, then that’s how it is. What’s with people getting easily offended so often? There are Jewish jackasses as well as fantastic people who we love who are Jewish and every other race, religion and color

          • Kristofer Quadros

            I must say that I agree with your father. Also you do sound very well meaning. Wise man and I totally echo his impressions of Churchill. He was a fantastic orator that could rally the troops and a great tactician. Apart from that he was as ass wipe s far as the rest of the Empire was concerned (barring of course the white colonies). But this is more than Churchill (even though he was in the Indian as part of the Raj in his early years). It is about how so few a group of foreign traders managed to by collusion or coercion exert so much influence and so brutally oppress so many before handing the reins over to the Throne. Of course not all can be painted in the same brush stroke there were many who selflessly dedicated their lives to the betterment of the Indian people.
            You are right about the Vikings whacking Britain but its apples and oranges and even that was before a thousand years after Jesus Christ. The Vikings assimilated with Anglo Saxons. Nothing comparable to the handful of Anglo Indians.
            Its best that Indians move forward and focus on economic prosperity and other inclusive growth measures (which they are making great progress towards). But those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.
            For the rest I have no fucking idea about all the name calling and religion bashing ultra nationalists.
            Cheers!
            Kristofer

          • Erwin Alber

            Re Churchill being a great orator: he apparently had someone read his famous speech “We shall fight them on the beaches…” etc over the radio.

            Churchill was also an alcoholic who was responsible for the disastrous Gallipolli campaign. Churchill was bailed out of bankruptcy by B Baruch who Churchill was then in debt to for the rest of his life.

          • Sheza

            Indians don’t hold a grudge against modern day Brits, either, I suppose. Just those that ruled India during the Raj and exploited their country way back when. Rather like modern African Americans don’t hold a grudge against modern (non racist) whites but do against the slave owners of the past…

      • bravehostdickie

        i thought god was to resurrect the dead! am i hopelessly waiting? : -D

        • Reader

          Whats Dead or the Living got to do with God here.

      • Jahir Ahmed

        No colonial laws will stay in the next century. The change will come with socio-economic development in a bigger scale when all citizens will live in a real self-ruled country, free from foreign influence.

    • Олеха

      unfortunately such tragedy happenned not just with Indian people… Its sad…

      • Yvonne Horak

        Happened with the Boer women and Children in South Africa too in the British Concentrations camps they were forced into, behind barbed wire and guards, removed by force from their homes and all homes, livestock ,possessions ,burnt to the Ground..Thousands of women and children died of starvation and disease.

        • Олеха

          Such examples are not just in India or Africa… Such horrible things even happenned in Europe… 10-25 MILLIONS of ukrainians have died in the result of man-made famine of 1932-1933… It was made by Stalin… And it was just in the middle of Europe…

          • Yvonne Horak

            Yes very true Onexa, Fanatics,Despots, and Pyschopaths as leaders have caused a lot of deaths all over this world. Even Africans murdered by their African Leaders and others now also still suffering famine and their Leaders are filthy rich with Bank Accounts overseas.We see ISIS now Brutally (actually slaughtering,)murdering fellow Muslims,even babies. Torture like has never been seen for centuries in what is supposed to be now a modern civilized world..All man made and for Power and Money. Victims are just a minor issue to them. When will it ever stop? THAT is the big question.

          • QV3

            ISIS is a US creation. Straight from the CIA that also created Al-Qaeda. The US likes to turn the world into their killing fields.

          • Lovely

            You are partly right. First terrorist activity was born in Middle East by PLO.
            Over the years the tentacles of terror swept through Europe in 70s and got
            .good refuge in Af -Pakistan border. Taliban was created by CIA &ISI to drive away Russians from Afghanistan in 79 —from Taliban , Al quaeeda was born,
            created and well fed by ISI . From Al Quaeeda came Bin laden, after this man, many ,many, Splinter groups were born for eg Boko Haram, ISIS etc who are most dangerous and have no religion , they simply say they belong to Islam, which is wrong.

          • ajax2x5

            Indigenous opposition to an occupying invader never has to be created. Occupation creates its own hatred and opposition. We helped with Stinger missles, but we didn’t create the Taliban.

          • QV3

            All terrorist activities in the ME was started by good ole england.
            Mi5 never sleeps. After the Ottoman Empire was reduced to clay, Britain set up ‘kingdoms’ with goat herders as ‘kings’ Britain has a fetish for ‘royalty’
            CIA never sleeps.
            Read Gladio, Operation Northwoods.
            Al-Qaeda and ISIS are US creations. Al-Q’s creation admitted by Hillary Clinton. ISIS by none other than the president.
            Rrom US General Gen. McInerney: “We
            Helped Build ISIS”. US Pols Should Be Hanged

          • Petrovitch

            Not true. State the facts that make you say that terrorism started in the ME by England. For example the Israelis used terrorism against the British in the late 1940s, as a show of gratitude that we had given them a part of Palestine in which to settle…under pressure from the United States of course.

          • QV3

            Research MI5

          • Petrovitch

            MI5 wasn’t invented when Scottish terrorists in the name of Campbell murdered the McDonald clan almost to extinction in Glen Coe in 1692, but hey that doesn’t fit for you does it? According to you only the English are terrorists, and the Scots are suppressed. You didn’t know that the Scots and Irish were murdering each other for centuries before the English tried to subdue them? No of course you didn’t, it doesn’t fit your prejudice.

          • Yvonne Horak

            Do not leave out the Brits. Their history prooves that.

          • Petrovitch

            Well Yvonne, I’ve just read all of your recent messages and you are clearly an angry woman. But just like QV3 whose discussions you seem to have joined, you suffer the same ignorance of real British history and appear to have picked up tabloid histories that suit your particular angle, which is clearly anti-British. You are quite wrong about the royal family (you have oversimplified quite complex situations of which the Daily Mail would be proud) but quite right about recent British governments stupidity, over the last 20 years. Your inability to distinguish between military invasion of a country and mere discovery and trading shows that you are trying to overlay the current US foreign policy into which the UK has been pushed to adopt by America and thus confuse British foreign policy of some one hundred to three hundred years ago which was quite quite different. Hindsight with the benefit of deliberate distortion will always suggest a different “history” than the real one.

          • QV3

            Oh please. Do read the history of Ireland . Speaks volumes of English sadism and atrocities.

          • Petrovitch

            There were no “Brits” in those days, you surely mean “English”. Such an elementary error demonstrates a level of ignorance that you can never now recover from here- your credibility is zero.

          • Jeigh Neither

            I’ll give you that one.

          • QV3

            The Scots and Irish did not representing their country invading, murdering, plundering, colonising. The English did. What the English did to the Irish is Evil.

          • Yvonne Horak

            It was not yours to give in the first place. THAT is the problem. Thinking you can give back to people that was theirs in the first place and not yours.Who gave it to you?When and how?

          • Jeigh Neither

            Once again, you’re a fucking moron. Terrorism was around long before the 1940’s. Remember, remember the 5th of November. Guy Fox employed a terrorist act against Parliament in London ENGLAND in 1606! You’re really ignorant. Terrorism has been around since before Ancient Egypt. Grow up, and grow a brain.

          • Petrovitch

            Do you understand the words “for example” or do you just want to demonstrate that you’re exactly what you call me?

          • masood tahir

            Dear all….I am happy ur discussion showed the depth of background knowledge … actually brutality is in human genome…to show humanity a right path God has sent prophets to them at different arranged times….all have a message to love human brings and spread peace on earth and don’t spread hatred and damageful acts..but it’s pity they did’t learñ and all of wars and deaths of humanity is the ripen fruits of our false deeds…

          • acme

            Al Quaeda was about 30 guys on 9/10/01. It wasn’t Clinton.

          • QV3

            There ‘s a video of Hillary clinton who admitted: We created al-Qaeda. Google and find it.

          • Jeigh Neither

            You’re so fucking stupid. It’s General McKiernan moron, and he didn’t mean it literally dip shit. He meant that the wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq enabled the recruitment and establishment of ISIS. That by destabilizing the area, ISIS was able to get a foothold. That ISIS simply replaced AL Queda. Those wars were opposed by the majority of people in the U.S. and were the creation of a criminal (Bush) who was not elected president by the people, but by the electoral college (only happened once before in 1886). All of this was able to happen because plutocrats have bought a large part the U.S. government and the Bush presidency. There were plenty of politicians against the war, and one of them was elected president largely because of that fact, and has remained president for seven years. He was elected despite the billions of dollars put behind the Republican by the plutocrats.

            You should really learn something about U.S. politics before running you fat mouth about shit you obviously don’t understand. Do you even speak English, or just use a translator? Because you sure don’t understand it if you think that’s what Gen. Mc Kiernan said, Lol! There are two parties in the U.S. One of them is for the rich, funded by plutocrats, racist, religious fanatics. Just like the Muslim Brotherhood. They are called Repulicans. The other party is for the people, and by the people, and despite the billions of dollars poured into politics by the Republicans; are still in power today. They are the Democrats. Get a clue. And if your going to run your mouth, how about some facts, stats, or links? Oh, don’t have any because what youre saying is pure xenophobic bullshit? That’s what I thought.

          • QV3

            It is YOU who is fucking stupid. A right m’fer. Who has LOST his country. We know more about America than you fucking arseholes. Google for videos by Bill Maher. He has lots and lots to tell about how fucking DUMb & STUPID Americans are.
            You filthy lot of scums. Living on STOLEN land. Psychopaths. One and all.

          • Jeigh Neither

            1. I already told you this once. “Americans” are people who live in North or South America, not just the U.S. dumb fuck. 2. I’m not a U.S. citizen, and never said I was. 3. If you get all your information and talking points from an HBO show, you will continue to be as thick as a brick. 4. The “Americans” that Maher is talking about are called Republicans, shit for brains…not even half the people in the U.S. are republicans, and I will never be a fascist fucking republican.. 5. I know Bill; I’ve worked on his show before. They film out of the CBS building in L.A. Do you think he’s talking about himself, because he’s from the states? No, he’s talking about all the stupid conservatives that ruined the U.S., have sold it to the highest bidder, started multiple wars against the wishes of the people, and are religious extremists. 6. I haven’t lost shit, because I’m not a stupid fucking xenophobe nationalist, as you so clearly are.7. The U.S. didn’t steal it’s land, it took it. If you knew a fucking thing about the world, you would know all humanity emerged from Africa. Since this is indeed the case as DNA evidence solidly proves, either all land is “stolen” or none of it is. Can you even think logically enough to understand that? 8. For someone from the U.K. as your syntax denotes; you sure can’t write English worth a shit. 9. I’m doing you a favor by educating you a little bit. You are either 14, or have an IQ of 70. Either way, as I told you before, you’re too fucking stupid to carry on a conversation with; good riddance, spunk for brains.

          • QV3

            Belt up you stupid generational PARASITE/PSYCHOPATH. I haven’t read your comments. Full of typical American LIES.America is Noted for LIES, LIES, LIES.

            You should return to your comatose sleep. Obviously you are no more familiar with the world when you’re awake than
            when you’re in a coma.

            Goodbye Cretin. And may you die horribly in coming days.

          • Erwin Alber

            It’s you who is ignorant because both the Republican as well as the Democratic parties are run by the members of the same crime syndicate that runs the US. Right wing – left wing – same bird!

          • Petrovitch

            That’s not correct, terrororism can be traced back through the centuries.

          • Jeigh Neither

            You’re a complete idiot. You say “Americans” (Americans are all people that live in the Americas moron) suffer some “identity crisis” yet the entire world emulates them and their fucking corporations. Then you accuse them for starting all the problems so they will feel better for taking people identities? Lol, do your realize how fucking stupid you sound. Then you say terrorism is traced through the ages…which Americans could have nothing to do with as such a young nation with “identity issues”. Seems like human kind has been fucked up long before the “Americans” and your own retarded argument backs that up. Really stupid. What kind of idiotic nationalist are you anyway? Russian? Funny thing is Russia is just as young a nation as the U.S. and they are both fucked up. You’re proof of that, wherever you may be from.

            The American people don’t give a shit about other peoples identities, and they sure don’t want to take them away. The world and both Russia and the U.S. is run by plutocrats who inseminate the world with propaganda. It’s all about money dumb fuck, and it’s about the rich vs the poor. You probably think Americans are rich too…eh? Lol, nearly 50 percent of the nation lives in poverty. The rich buy the politicians, and that’s where problems come from. I travel the entire world, and know every continent and their peoples quite well. The people that really suck, are nationalist like yourself. If your so stupid to generalize and entire nation, I bet you think the nation you were born in is the best right? Mierda! You’re entire argument is ignorant and xenophobic. You’re just like the fucking republicans and conservatives in the U.S. Just like those you hate. Don’t bother replying to me, you’re far too stupid to carry on a conversation with.

          • LakhiD

            Terrorist activity – as defined by the UN as injuring killing or harming innocent civilians for ideological or political gain. The first terrorist attack was carried out by the US when it bombed two civilian cities in Japan. Horoshima and Nagasaki.

            The second terrorist attacks , and the father of terrorism, was carried out by the IRGUN, the Israeli right wing terrorist organisation when the bombed King David hotel in Jerusalem in 1947 .

            Palestinians learned all about terrorism from Irgun.

          • acme

            You have a short view of history.

          • Erwin Alber

            Indeed. no mention of the bombing of Dresden during WW2, or the senseless mutual slaughter in WW1.

          • Yvonne Horak

            What bull ! get to know the history of Arab tribes ( before the oil and riches)!

          • LakhiD

            Arab tribes never bombed a hotel full of civilians. Are you denying the fact that Irgun bombed King David Hotel in Jerusalem?

          • Yvonne Horak

            They have always been at each others throats. Sunnis, Shi ites etc.Killing off each other.

          • QV3

            Thank you. Research and find that the Muslim Brotherhood was created by MI5.

          • acme

            Oh, please.

          • LakhiD

            First terrorist activity in the middle east were carried out by the Irgun- Israel right wing terrorist organisation. Palestinians were poor olive farmers . They had no knowledge of terrorism until Israelis started attacks on olive farmers to chase them off their land , claim as much as land possible and redraw the borders of Israel before UN resolutions for a two state solution. Read proper hisotry and learn. Not the garbage dished out by British and US media.

          • Moeiz HaLari

            I don’t know if you can call PLO acts the first terrorism in M.E, but Jews started it much earlier e.g bombing of King David hotel in Jerusalem, and much much more!

          • Petrovitch

            One thing we do agree on, They do it partly to support their economy but also to maintain a lofty power over the rest of us. Americans suffer a basic insecurity through lack of identity. Destroying other people’s identity makes them feel better about their own problems. The world is rebelling against them and eventually they will end up fighting on so many fronts they will be defeated. Unfortunately American politicians are not above taking us all to oblivion with them.

          • Олеха

            What can I say? Its war in Ukraine now… My heart is crying every day…

          • acme

            Civilization is a thin veneer. Even in the US.
            Somebody, unclear who, said “No country is more than 3 meals away from revolution.”
            The Rwandan slaughter was partly horrifying for not being remotely being unique.
            When will it stop? When people stop. Maybe fairly soon now.

          • Yvonne Horak

            That was so so tragic.Africa is a cruel Continent! Always has been. It is like an underlying volcano smouldering all the time
            and just needs a match of some sorts to ignite a volcano.

          • QV3

            China is there. Making a success of it. China doesn’t exploit. China has poured in close to 40 billion to build infrastructure, develop Africa’s resources, and invest with Africa on a Win-Win strategy.. China believes in the Prosper Thy Neighbour philosphy. This is evident when African leaders declare China never slaved Africa. A couple of videos are available. Google , if interested.
            The Rwandan massacre, the Burundi massacre, and every other massacre is caused deliberately by America, France, and Britain.

          • cathy

            I read that and the reason was, the farmers did not want collective farming, so Stalin murdered a few million and started a famine which killed 10 million more, according to Google.

          • Pincho13

            It is about British colonialism, nothing to do with Stalin here …

          • cathy

            I was answering Onexa, but you’re correct. I got carried away on famines. British colonialism vs. Stalin, the same results unfortunately.

          • Zia

            Really frustrating news

        • QV3

          Between the Nazis and the British, I think the British can teach the Nazis how to kill better.

          • Petrovitch

            Then once again you deny historical facts. In fairly recent history, the Russians and the Japanese were vying for the most efficient killer badge, but it’s fair to say that the US have that honour today.

          • Zia

            Well said. Modern day deaths are being delivered by the USA and allies. Let us stop the merciless atrocities.

          • Jeigh Neither

            I have to agree with you again on most of that. Except the U.S. has killed far fewer than any of those nations mentioned. The modern wars have seen far fewer deaths. I don’t see how any nation can ever live up to what the Japanese did in WWII and the years leading up to it. Modest estimates put civilian Chinese deaths by the hands of the Japanese at 60 million. There is a reason their war machine was stripped away from them…until recently. Last year they spent 50 billion on arming themselves, preparing for the face off in the south China sea, which the world seems to be conveniently ignoring. That is going to be a hell storm, mark my words.

          • Kristofer

            As mentioned, Mao singularly responsibly for the famine resulting in 75 million in a 2 year period. History is littered with such incidents. No point in laying it at the feet of the Japanese or anyone else. As unfortunate as it is, that’s what makes us human.

          • Sebhai

            Yes but Mao didn’t wield any samurai sword beheading local common folks,the japanese didn’t only killed the chinese people but other asians as well ask how many had died at the hands of japanese in Indonesia,Phillipines,Myanmar and Malaysia.

          • Kristofer

            I thought that crown belonged to Mao for 75 million in the singular Great Chinese famine.

          • QV3

            Yes. Obama revels in ecstatic glee as he watches videos of his drone killing innocents at weddings, funerals, festivals in Yemen (for his Saudi buddies) Afghanistan, Pakistan, Wariztan.

          • EnglandmyEngland

            Well now, let’s just think about that shall we – without the Brits Europe would be in a pretty sorry state don’t you think? I do believe we sorted out the Nazis with a little help from our friends and stopped the mass genocide that was occurring. However the Serbs, Japanese, Germans, Turkish, Cambodians could teach us a thing or to about killing don’t you think? What nationality are you dumkauf?

          • QV3

            Everythng magnificent in england is from the LOOTING, since Elizabeth I. You are an uneducated, generational parasite one should not demean to converse with.

          • Alexis Fletcher

            And you my dear, are a very bitter and twisted individual…

          • Alex

            You are saying stupid things,Serbs never did a genocide, that’s bullshit,and was a setup of your ”great” nation and the Usa,to destroy and separate Yugoslavia..And what these two nation’s are doing now?? Killing all over the world spreading,” democracy “. So next time educate yourself before saying something!

          • tamy_08

            Oh it’s you that is saying very stupid things..or is over 8 thousand dead Bosnians in Srebrenica not genocide to you? or Ovčara in Croatia or Kosovo?
            And Yugoslavia collapsed from within, there was no set up..
            So next time educate yourself before saying something!

          • Guy N D

            tamy-08
            Bosnians and Croats were part of the Waffen-SS in WWII.
            Massacred thousands of Serbs.
            This is why they killed Muslims, Croats and Bosnians.
            Serbs have not forgotten the attrocites committed by the Croats,Bosnians and Muslims who were happy to be fighting for the Third Reich.
            As for India, it is one of the most corrupt countries on the world.
            India win at cricket at home by doctoring pitches, away from home India struggles.
            Being good at sport does not make a man great but will determine what sort of man he is.
            Corrupt government and public service is the result of a corrupt people
            India is corrupt from top to bottom.

          • Alexis Fletcher

            Maybe you need to educate yourself. Where I lived in Liverpool, whole blocks of flats were emptied out to temporary house the Serbs to help them during this situation. But…. You’d obviously know all this wouldn’t you

          • Kristofer

            They never walked alone 🙂

          • Alexis Fletcher

            🙂

          • Kristofer

            What happened in Yugoslavia was sad. It was just too political after Gen. Tito and everyone wanted a piece of the pie. But like expected, the UN stayed out until too late. Except for some brave French general I believe who tried his best (with no support) to keep the peace.

          • Narendra Kumar

            No….you perception is wrong…..After robbing all the countries, British send them in sorry state…. These were only British who are responsible for uneven distribution of treasure because they looted all the money from other nation just to built their empire…. British were nothing but were cunning enough to acquire anything whatever they want by cheating, killing and ruling…You looted the precious Diamond “Kohinor” from India… you made Nazis to crate trouble for you… whenever you humiliate someone…then you must be ready to be humiliated…….

          • Petrovitch

            It’s not perception friend, you need to stick to facts! Your perception is not based on fact, it’s just myth.

          • Alexis Fletcher

            Humiliated??? If you got the diamond back would India sell it and look after it’s poor maybe?? You need to look at yourselves and feel humiliation about how your poor are living all over the streets and none of you fellow citizens care a damm

          • Sebhai

            Give it back to the indians then maybe they could use it to help the poor and stop blaming britain

          • Alvan rigby

            Yes but when they left India had almost one half of the world’s silver supply. True India has a lot to complain about but what I suspect is that some Indians are blaming Britain hoping to hide their own faults.

          • Kristofer

            More than a “little” help my friend. The bulk of the English Army was from its colonies. And please do not be holier than thou, this article lays the millions dead on British doorstep. Cambodia was a sunny day compared to these holocaust like pics

          • Alexis Fletcher

            Sadly, today the Indians could probably teach us Brits a few tricks. You Indians are watching your own dying in poverty on the streets and doing nothing about it

          • Kristofer

            We just taught you Chicken tikka masala.. Don’t push your luck 😛

        • Zia

          This is equally painful. Humanity needs to bring out these injustices so that the real face of the world emerges.

        • EnglandmyEngland

          And the Japanese didn’t do that to the British in WW II Mrs Prejudice Horak?

          • Yvonne Horak

            We were talking Boer war here. Not second world war 11.Britain was supposed to be a ‘Civilized” Nation with Honourable Men as Officers and Soldiers, Not fighting unarmed women and children left on desolate farms and outnumbered by God alone knows, by thousands of many fully trained, fully armed experienced Fighting Battalions and Regiments complete with medicines, field hospitals, Nurses etc. . When they were loosing badly., they were not “supposed to resort” to being an Army of
            Cowards, looting farms houses, killing all livestock, burning the possessions of Women and Children and escorting them in open cattle trucks or marching them on foot to Concentration Camps to go and die there of FAMINE and disease.!Cowards! No Excuse whatsoever. The could not face a Boer, “man to man” on equal footing , so they chose their women and children. Squeal like a pig as much as you like, that is the truth. Boer women used to laugh at many of the soldiers, even they could outgun and outride them! Many were amazed as how backwards,scruffy and common a great majority were. Ate like pigs and stank! Many firsthand stories here recorded here.eve the Africans still on the farms thought that many were so disgusting and that they had white skins So Sorry Sir, acknowledge your wrongs, we all have to do so. History is recorded and unfortunately for you, yours too..by the way Afrikaners were very religious in those days( more so than today) and they did not bear grudges and got up o their own two feet and started all over again , very very poor and fro scratch. After all they were descendants of Pioneer stock that had arrived to nothing.No malice is held today and possibly 70% have intermarried decades ago already with British descendants and other Europeans. BUT they would like the TRUTH to be know.
            No revenge, No animosity,no grudges, NO sacrificing your beliefs, culture,religion, traditions, no feeling sorry for yourself,just get up and dust yourself and get on with it, is what has always saved the Afrikaner people.If not respected for that and allowed it- then FIGHT for your rights.

      • QV3

        Yes. The British happily created a famine in Ireland and watched the Irish die with mirth as they stuffed their mouths with roast beef and yorkshire pudding. The most evil people on earth are the British.

        • Reader

          You have great deal of an obligations to the British, and thats the reason you are so wild at the British. Perhaps, you are as we speak, enjoying the UNEMPLOYMENT Benefits of Britain now.

          • QV3

            Bollocks! Reading British history is sufficient to make even the abbot in the monastery puke!
            I am not in Britain, cretin. I am in the East. Where the sun rises. Where we also enjoy the 4 seasons. And enjoy the season of hanami. But you wouldn’t understand.

          • Yvonne Horak

            Oh, I do understand. Wonderful memories of living in really disciplined hardworking Communities where respect is everything. Hanami!, especially in Mitsuike Park and Ueno Park, around the Castle too in late March..Gyoen is also good if one misses the early Seasons. How I miss living in Asia, -Singapore, Japan, Thailand. Wonderful Memories. Yes, your are right QV3- how could the ignorant ever understand unless they have experienced the difference.

          • QV3

            The late Mr. Lee Kuan Yew , born when Singapore was a British colony saw the humiliation of the colonial power by Japan. Britannia rule the waves died that day for him. Decrying the decadence and welfarism which he thought had sapped the strength of countries such as Britain, he supported tough laws and punishments, making Singapore
            orderly, clean and disciplined.
            And today, because of him and the men he chose, Messrs. Goh Keng Swee, the hard-headed, tough-minded economic builder of Singapore, S. Rajaratnam who penned the Singapore Pledge recited by all schoolchildren to today; who moved hearts and minds with his ideas, sentiments, and spirit, in the early years,they and other men of high morals, courage, made Singapore what it is today — a first world city state that is crime free.
            While Britain is destroyed, from within and without.
            Beggared India when the British Looters were kicked out today has 6 trillion worth of infrastructure to build.
            China, Korea, Japan, are all there in India with lucrative contracts. No whites. Russia is, of course, there. A natural ally of India.
            Europe begged for Asian investors for 315 billion to build their crumbling infrastructure.
            Today, the BRICS, SCO, EEU and the Silk Road is the FUTURE. The Sun Rises in the East.

          • Erwin Alber

            The people in Singapore are being systematically poisoned with fluoride in their drinking water. Evil.

          • QV3

            The West also has fluoride in their water. The US has decided to add lithium for a more zombie hoi polloi.
            TheWest also has chemtrails , GMO franken foods, and aborted baby parts in their biscuits, sauces.
            The Evil ones all sit in the West. Their Evil is from the Bowels of Hell.

          • QV3

            The sakura in Taiwan is not as beautiful as the one that blooms all over Japan. The sakura in Korea is almost equivalent to Japan.

          • God’s dad

            Nobody apart from qv3 claimed to understand, also I’m sure there are lots of things in the world that you are ignorant to and therefore don’t understand, what a shameless, snobby comment you make.

          • God’s dad

            He was educated in England, daddy paid, posh wankers reject him at school so madness sets in.

          • Yvonne Horak

            Maybe reality set in and brainwashing did not work any longer.

          • God’s dad

            Nah, just a hypocrite.

          • QV3

            The liar , loser, and on the dole above hates that Asians are well versed in martial arts. We Asians who are taught martial arts from age 6 do not allow anyone to whack us. When attacked by yobs that seem to proliferate Bankrupt Britain of the Dole I beat them up. Put one on crutches.
            There are videos of Asians who take on the yobs .
            You ahve lived in Asia — you will know the many martial arts schools that parents send their children to.

          • Alexis Fletcher

            Get in… How proud you must be to have put a Brit on crutches. You are to be pitied if that’s your claim to fame. It’s embarrassing actually

          • Yvonne Horak

            Is it not your OWN British Governments that pay out those UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS to all and Sundry? Is it not your OWN GOVERNMENTS that have created a legacy of lazy layabouts living comfortably because of All those benefits.?Do you think those that do not work in your Country and are all on the dole, would ever leave , even if offered first class plane tickets and a JOB in another Country and go and stand on their own two feet and starting WORKING for a living? NEVER !Why all all those other layabouts ( especially Africa. Pakistani Bangladesh , India- who have no excuse and NO WARS like Syria, Iraq.Libya and ISIS) in Calais and in Italy and everywhere else on their way to Britain?Because of your HANDOUTS ! not talking about genuine refugees fleeing wars and ISIS.ALL know you Government and their EU RULERS are Patsies- easy to take for a ride ! Who opened your borders to all and sundry, Fanatics, Bombers, Jihadists, Murderers, Rapists that you now cannot get rid of? Other Countries? Keep on Voting Mate, your country is no longer “Great” Britain, as a matter of fact, being taken over to such an extend, there is little Britain left already and soon there will be sweet blow all.YOU lot had better wake up.

          • QV3

            The generational parasites of Britain scream out to the Establishment: Don’t cap my benefits.
            There are videos galore highlighting the parasites who refuse to work but can have their nails varnished; off to the bingo halls, pubs; and lay about watching the idiot box all day.
            One only has to type: you tube — this is britain today.

          • Alexis Fletcher

            What is the better option?? To have layabouts who won’t work or poor lying all over the streets and begging because their own governments don’t give a hoot about them

        • Gaudz Pacot

          Yes, they favored Malaysia over the Philippines on the Sabah issue. Fucking British!!!

          • QV3

            No, the British never favoured Malaysia over Philippines. The British never engages in anything that would be detrimental to them. Sabah was given to Malaysia because Sabah is close to Brunei. and recently, the sultan ofBrunei held a grand dinner at the Dorchester Hotel for the entire parasites of Buck’s place.
            Also, Brunei employs the elite Gurkha guards of Britain and money rolls into the palace coffers. Not to mention the fabulous gifts of diamond with ruby/emerald sets of jewellery gifted to the Mongrel Monarchy.
            It is said the British establishment offers a shoenail on an exchange of a thoroughbred horse that would win at Ascot.

          • Gaudz Pacot

            Let’s just hope future presidents together with the Kirams will initiate positive moves towards getting Sabah back.

          • QV3

            At the present time, Malaysia is doing all it can to prevent the secession of Sabah and Sarawak.

        • Олеха

          how much history about each other we don’t know yet…

          • QV3

            Oh, there’s books on Ireland and the famine.

            Novelwise — there’s the Trinity by Leon Uris

            History wise –Atlas of the Great Irish Famine by by William Smyth , John Crowley, Mike Murphy .. Won a prize for Best Irish Published Book of the Year.
            There are youtubes of it which I can’t type or it will be held up. Just google the title and get the book. President Higgins made a presentation.

            The Graves are Walking: The Great Famine and the Saga of the Irish People. By John Kelly. Henry Holt;

            The Famine Plot: England’s Role in Ireland’s Greatest Tragedy. By Tim Pat Coogan.Palgrave Macmillan;

            The English, of course,are aghast at what they call ‘the re-opening of old wounds’ but let’s keep all that land to ourselves ‘ and have their innards in a twist .The queen insists she was crowned queen of england, ireland, scotland and wales, and damn will not give up any territory.
            Sothere. You have it.

          • Petrovitch

            You mistakenly believe that the Queen has any power at all over or in the UK. Her “power” has been usurped by parliament and she is no more than a figure head. Why do you suppose that the government organised the referendum for independence for Scotland, and not the Queen? You couple ignorance with a massive chip on your shoulder which you revealed in another post. You live in the far east apparently but harbour a grudge against a people that acted in a far more civilsed manner than the people that you now are sponging off.

          • QV3

            Brits are brigands, pirates. So say historians. Don’t LIE.

          • Petrovitch

            I think you’ll find that is Somalis but I’ll grant you that there is an i and an s in both words so it would have confused you. 🙂

          • QV3

            Good lord, man. You lost your marbles? Piracy was encouraged by Elizabeth I. oh, don’t bore me. Go read history.
            Type youtube – Royal Family : Vultures onthe Corpse of Humanity.
            And be proud. Bye Bye. You are already boring me. And I do hate being bored. Toodle doo. Tally ho!

          • Petrovitch

            You may wish to call it piracy because it suits your purpose, but what the Elisabethans were doing was the same as the Vikings, the Romans, the Carthaginians, the Greeks, and in fact what all civilised countries did- they explored and sought trade and resources. That is not the same as piracy. Piracy is more akin to invading Malaya and the Philippines like the japanese did during the 2nd world war and stealing resources enslaving people without any attempt at bargaining.

          • Yvonne Horak

            WOW !! Singapore,Malaysia, Phillipines, Burma, Hong Kong,India, Africa, etc. Who invaded there? Aliens from Mars or the British as the History Archives how ? LONG before the Japanese during a war.

          • Petrovitch

            Glad to see you’ve given up, we don’t need intelligent conversations destroyed by arrogant escapees from a mental institution.

          • QV3

            You said Goodbye. Stupid Scum.
            Besides, you bore me with denials.
            Bye Bye. Don’t bother me.

          • Petrovitch

            I’m not bothering you, you don’t need to read these comments and don’t need to reply to them. But we both know that you can’t keep away……

          • Yvonne Horak

            History has not given up- Libraries are full of British History all over the world. Sorry , it is all recorded.

          • God’s dad

            Liar, all countries practiced piracy, still plenty goes on in Asia.

          • Alexis Fletcher

            HAHAHA…. go and put more Brits on crutches you saddo

          • Yvonne Horak

            How many of those Somalis in Britain with now British Passports and Citizenship? Who gave them that?

          • Yvonne Horak

            civilized? Really?

          • Yvonne Horak

            If her Uncle had not abdicated, she would not even have been any sort of Queen at all. her Uncle was forced to abdicate because of an American divorcee ( she was not married at the time, did not even have children and grandchildren of her own!) Yet Charles, is married to a Divorcee who he had an affair with whilst married and she was ALSO very much married and HAD A HUSBAND at the time, children and even has her OWN grandchildren? How about that?

    • Asma Joolfoo

      yes, of course you should! Horrible, appalling, awful are words too weak to discuss the horror of those deeds and the remark of Winston Churchill is so cruelly and disgust.

      • Jahir Ahmed

        The things will start to change considerably in the next century. What the Asians say will be quoted next time and the past harmful error quotes will go to the hell.

        • RR

          Well people should also objectively see what Islam has done to India, greater India, and the world.

          • BG Davis

            RR
            Please make at least minimal effort to be rational. Islam has absolutely nothing to do with the article nor the topic.

          • USMC71

            Islam IS a corollary issue as it mimics the pretense of bringing peace and stability to a region but all it does is exploit and diminish what human.

          • zen

            You just want to divert attention from the horrific truth about the British Government and East India Co.Hindu Mahasabha/RSS was well known for helping the Britishers.

          • USMC71

            And you wish to live in the past. Perhaps the British will be happy to pay compensation. I don’t doubt they have exploited others and do not deny that of the USA. However, YOU as an American – if you are – have benefited from the actions of private companies and public policy all your life, so let me ask how YOU have begun to alleviate that portion of the financial and moral debt YOU owe?

          • Christopher Pierre-Louis

            You don’t get it, do you? That’s like saying that black people benefited from slavery in spite of the long standing and still present systematic racism.

            That’s like raping a woman and when she firsts hold the child in her arms telling her “aren’t you glad I did that to you?”

          • USMC71

            Not quite. Black people in the USA have a distinct and superior advantage over the Black tribes in Africa. If you doubt that, just visit Africa where they have to import many crops that they once exported.
            Your rape analogy is false, too, as no benefits emerge from that experience while in the case of British expansionism in the Colonies and India, both indigenous cultures derives benefits from the British, however many may be the acts of exploitation. Perhaps you can demonstrate to us from history where any expansionist effort did not result in some kind of exploitation. The same was true of Greece, Rome, Babylon, Persia, Mexico, Asia, ad infinitum. Clearly, you are seeking Utopia. By its very name, it does not exist.

          • Christopher Pierre-Louis

            Being the descendant of a victim/second class citizen only to be a defacto second class citizen doesn’t sound very appealing. Also the situation in Africa only came to be from the expansion propagated by colonialism. To say we should be grateful is to legitimize a crime (against humanity) because it held some unforeseen benefits to those who came after.

          • USMC71

            Those benefits did not appear in a vacuum: they emerged from a particular set of beliefs.
            I grew up in an orphanage and could blame a host of people for the hardships I’ve had – along with hundreds of others who grew up alongside me. But guess what? We believed the words of the Apostle Paul in Romans 8:28, that “God causes all things to work together for good to those who love Him and are called according to His promise.” Being a Christian, I am indebted to the slave population for many of the great hymns we sing in church every Sunday, songs which would not have come about without their sufferings. I would not want them to go through that again but am grateful for their trust in an Almighty god who could, would and did redeem their sufferings. For that matter, I would gladly go through my own experiences again if it would yield me the ability to have the compassion I have for the orphanages I visit monthly where I live.

          • Christopher Pierre-Louis

            You refuse to understand things like privilege, historical context and collective damage/discrimination have no bearing on origins right? Privilege does not = money/power/fame etc. What it means is to give others unearned consideration over others based upon their origins and create double standards of what is and what isn’t acceptable.

            It also defaults a large (not the entire) group to different classes and social standings, it also stunts or make it disproportionately difficult to ascend past their current position (without selling out or betraying)

          • USMC71

            And what, exactly, are YOU doing to bring relief to the aggrieved parties?
            Otherwise, as my granny used to say, “Pooey!”

          • Christopher Pierre-Louis

            Kinda hard to do much when you, yourself are part of one of those “aggrieved parties”.

          • USMC71

            Ever heard the term “pull yourself up by your own bootstraps”? It’s about time to stop feeling sorry for yourself and get yourself in gear. I did it and so so did a lot of my fellow brothers and sisters who had no parents or family resources to call on when we wanted to buy things, go to college, learn how to drive, discover how to conduct ourselves in public, etc.. I screwed up a lot but discovered there is a God who forgives and acts providentially in space and time for those who call on Him through His Son, Jesus. Else,, you are on your own.

          • Christopher Pierre-Louis

            White privilege at its finest. In a country stolen by, run by, mostly, populated by, and for whites with anything but a benevolent demeanor. To be crushed by their own blindness of meritocracy and capitalism while the elites screw the both of us. And when it finally hits your doorstep you’ll run and blame a black or mexican won’t you? Somehow a talented (and very lucky) few completely eradicate the idea that there isn’t anything wrong with “our” society. That those who have been names had to try several times harder than their white equivalents are a prime example of a double standard that other races should just simply try harder than whites to attain the same, I mean that’s equality. No offense but I really hope in my next life I can be as socially blind and dumb as you.

          • USMC71

            Always the poor. hapless victim. Get a life, mister. I doubt you live in the US or you’d be aware that people like Ben Carson, et al. [see previous response] don’t bother smothering their conscience with the bilge you reproduce from the progressives’ websites. I do not play the stupid ‘White Guilt’ game.
            Should you change your skin pigmentation, you’d have the same problems you have now…just blaming other people because you are too slothful to work and make your own way; someone else must bear the blame for your not “gittin’ what I deserve.”

          • USMC71

            I still refuse to participate in your pity party and, thus, further enable your helplessness. Get your rear-end in gear, son: the world will give you dirt to cover yourself when you gork. Between now and then, you have access to the God who claims that He can remake what His fallen creation has marred and perverted. You have as much access to God through Jesus Christ as I. You are left on your own otherwise.

          • DME

            you brainwashed hyper-ideological asshole. have you ever formed an original thought in your life? Or do you think having mastered parroting think tank-manufactured, divisive, partisan narratives helps you trick people into thinking you’re intelligent? The racism written into the very source code of our society has given you a slight advantage, that you are then conditioned to DEFEND with the bullshit narratives you’ve memorized here. But people like you don’t realize that the malevolent ruling elite is fucking you in the ass too. They’re tricking you into fighting in wars they profit from, on false pretenses. They’re keepign you in debt, in conflict, on medication, dependent on them and, therefor, under their control. They devised a society where whites are granted a slight advantage, and told that they’ve “earned” that advantage from being more industrious, intelligent, all special and shit, etc. etc… You swallow that horse shit and defend a system built by a ruling elite that doesn’t give a shit about you. They exploit your fragility and insecurity, which they feed to you through systematic indoctrination. You fucking moron. Stop breaking your arm patting yourself on the back. Everything you know is wrong. Just STFU.

          • USMC71

            My guess is you’ve been in the hospital, psyche ward or jail this past year since my last iteration in this thread. You have my sympathies. Really.

          • USMC71

            Dude, you have problems. I hope you get some healing. That you cannot compose a retort without resorting to such vengeful animus should clue you to underlying toxins that have taken hold of your soul.

          • RD

            and you suggest as well that for the love of God millions of innocent people should die of famine so that a Christian God can uphold his glory?

          • USMC71

            You can have an absurd universe minus the relationship of cause and effect -see Richard Weavers “Ideas have consequences” – or you can have a universe wherein God has granted men to exercise their fallen will and screw over one another, crying out to Him for deliverance from their enemy. He has been doing this throughout the centuries but your pagan worldview demands a godless universe where virtue exists in a vacuum. Tell me who is living in fantasy.

          • RD

            @USMC71 – off course that is an explanation given for the depredations done. In India they talk about English language, administration and railways. But how do you measure these benefits compared to reducing India’s share of world trade from 31% to less than 1% and inducing famines in Bengal to kill far more people than Hitler did in Europe. Even Hitler had benefits for Germany, no?

          • RD

            @USMC71… I doubt the British would have the capacity to pay compensation much less be willing to. If they indeed do pay the compensation they will end up so poor the Buckingham Palace would not stand. Oh and yes – somebody ought to be paying for what amounts to far more than war crimes – would the queen (or the prime minister) be hanged. For surely they would, if it was their own population.

          • Haji_Hindustan

            Davis, correct your knowledge, white skin do not mean educated and knowing all. Majority of Bengal are Muslims.

          • zen

            Please be a little literate in real.The topic covers the inhuman treatment of Indians by British not Christian or Muslim.If you care so much about British then please migrate to UK, it still exists.

      • essex minguez

        The Indians even provided men during World War II. The real history shall be written to right the wrongs made and gave justice to the victims no matter how late.

    • Becca Towers

      I doubt you would know the truth if it jumped up an bit you Jahir, you certainly don’t know your own ancient history.

    • Zia

      Indeed, the historians of today need to come clean with the truth as it happened.

      • Jahir Ahmed

        It will take time. This will need new generation historians in the coming decades/centuries, when Asian educational institutions will rise to do that.

    • Sujoy Chand Bural

      Absolutely right. I’ll do whatever I can from my end to cut the fucking Britishers

      • Alexis Fletcher

        Britishers??? hahahahaha,,, thats hilarious

      • Jahir Ahmed

        Time will heal everything with its own course of taking return, of course, peacefully, driven by wisdom. The colonialist culprits will go to the hell.

    • Diya Gilani

      Yes.This should be done.British did very inhumane in this region.

      • Jahir Ahmed

        Sure, Diya Gilani, time will come to rewrite the colonial history of the last six centuries correctly. The rewriting will begin after full decline of the economic and political influence and power of the colonialist countries. Already the decline has started and this will take a stronger turn in the next century. The current conflicts in various regions are the impacts of the beginning of that decline. The powerful nations are trying to escape or slowing the decline by continuing their economic and political influences. Asia’s economic re-emergence will change the global situation in the next century in this respect in a peaceful environment.

    • Petr Seberád

      …..After the Japanese occupation of Burma in March 1942, Bengal and the other parts of India and Ceylon, normally supplied by Burma, had to find food elsewhere. However, there were poor crops and famine situations in Cochin, Trivandrum and Bombay on the West coast and Madras, Orissa and Bengal in the East. It fell on the few surplus Provinces, mainly the Punjab, to supply the rest of India and Ceylon…hey…if author omits such important events, it diminishes his credibility

    • LICKERthegreat

      It will be written, for sure. Mark my words, I swear by my Laudda, it will be done within 2 years, or so. Give us time.

    • PARWAIZ ALI

      You are right to make world know the truth about so called champions of peace and brotherhood.

  • anunnaki

    real history is hidden from us by the elite ,,

    • QV3

      Visit your local library for history of India by Swami Vivekananda, Sarvarkar, Sita Ram Goel, and others. Francois Gautier, the French journalist is a good source who will guide you.

      • Reader

        Anything to rival or be Anti-Western is Golden for you QV3

        • QV3

          Oh yes. Undoubtedly. The East rises. Just as the sun rises in the East. The West is stagnant; decaying, dying.

  • Onyeukwu

    This was the kind of world we lived in. Why haven’t Gandhi died yet?

  • James

    Indians still breed like cockroaches. They are a plague wherever they go. They do not integrate and are notorious fir being corrupt and being dishonest. I use to hire them at my firm but have since stopped. They can lie and twist facts in a split second. Found them to be a bedy complex people.

    • B.t. Murphy

      Sounds like your describing an american politician. You don’t happen to be one yourself do you? Any Indian I have met has been polite kind honest and hard working probably unlike yourself.

      • Shailendra Singh

        Thanks Murphy..you are right…

      • Thejus Prasanth

        thanks murphy. suddenly i became a cockroach like gregor samsa in kafka’s metamophosis when i read jame’s comment about us indians. you turned me human again…..

      • Reader

        Indians are kind and polite to the Strong and Powerful.

      • Андрей Аккелин

        You must have met people from southern part of india

    • The Archmage of the Aether

      Lucky them to be spared the favour of working for a man like you.

    • ronnie

      “They are a plague wherever they go.” Well said! I hope you are proud of yourself and your intellect. Bravo.

    • jameseatsshit

      Says James, possibly an English person, i.e a genocidal sociopath. Lets trust James instead shall we.

      • PMexPAT

        Well , your post name sets you up as a pillar of intellect .

    • Reader

      For any civilization to
      survive, once it has reached its pinnacle, has to travel beyond its borders. So did the British Empire, 300 to 400 years
      back. The only mistake the British
      Empire committed was to correct the wrong the world around it was doing, the
      intention was to Shape up the world with some disciplined civilized citizens. To a large extent they successfully managed
      to correct a lot of wrongs in the world and standardized to British Standards
      limit.

      The British Empire and
      its legacy can be summed up below :
      Unlike the Spanish/Portugese, the British never had a Religious Agenda,
      they were TRADERS, they implemented Trade and Commerce, Export and Import,
      built Infrastructure and Cities, removed
      Widow Burning (Saati), Removal of Devdasi system ie. the Temple girls used for
      Dancing to lure the Kings and later reused as prostitutes, Removed Bonded Labour, Removed Feudalism,
      Introduced English Language and thereby Indians understood the meaning of
      FREEDOM & DEMOCRACY, such two words never existed prior to the British
      Arrived in India. The best Architectural
      Buildings, Dams (Including Mullaperiyar) and infrastructure were built by the
      British. The allegation of force-able religious
      conversion is simply naïve, this is mostly said by those, who want to split the
      people further, only the
      Underprivileged, disadvantaged and outcasts of that era, were introduced to
      Christianity, which became part of the Church of England/India. Whereas, those from the Royal Families &
      the Elite among the Indians were considered to be part of the Army, especially
      the Officer cadre ie. to maintain the HIERARCHY. Indians were never dragged into the WW-II. Be thankful to the British Raj for
      disciplining the Indian Society and to fight for a cause and fight for the
      country, with their Heads Straight. After
      joining the Royal British-Indian Army or any Army for that matter, you are
      supposed to fight for the country and follow the orders from the President, in
      this case it was the Queen of England, who was the Head of the Indian
      dominion. ENGLISH language is one of the
      greatest legacy that the British left behind.
      Every Elite Indian can be proud that he speaks the Most Cultured and Civilized language on Earth.
      Indians speak better English compared to any other national – be in Arab or
      from Africa, non-Indians speak with a heavy accent of their country/continent,
      however, Indians speak English in the clearest manner that the World can
      understand, which has made Indians in great demand in the International Job
      Market.

      Thanks to the British
      Empire for getting rid of the Mughals and handing India back to Indians. Otherwise we would have still been paying
      JAZIYA TAX. Unification of the Smaller
      & weak Indian Kingdoms and Princely States (fighting among each other) to
      form worlds largest Democracy. Had the
      British not unified India, India would have been a Muslim country at least a
      100 years back, due to the small and weak Army possessed by these Little
      Kingdoms.

      The
      strictest form of this religion would invite and attract young recruits to have
      the thrill of running over helpless people, Modern World considers women to get
      educated, we respect them for like our
      mothers and sisters, however the agenda of the strictest form of this religion
      is to dominate the weak, killing the men and raping the women,
      multiplying and outnumbering other religious and races and ofcourse enslaving
      the children of the captives.

      The Bandits who took
      over from the British Raj rejuvenated the FEUDAL society of their fore-fathers – SAMANTHWAADI Pratha, that the British got
      rid of, the remnants of such FEUDAL approach remains in the minds of the
      off-springs of their forefathers ie. todays Generation, and has gripped the
      Indian society in full.

      Free and Fair Trade and
      Basic Capitalist Economy and Openness to Foreign Investment and Imports,
      allowed Indians to get to know the Qualitative products around the world.

      The British were never
      chased out of India, in fact, the British were needed back home to fight the
      German army, besides it was difficult to manage an empire extending to
      one-third of the Planet Earth and therefore left India on their own, ofcourse they had employed some dummies whose
      Mug-shots are hanging in the Indian Parliament and the Kothwalis of India. Though we still believe it was the job of a
      few bunch of Gang Leaders of the Stone Pelters during the early late 1800s.

      Cricket that runs thru
      the veins of everyone from the Indian sub-continent, is a gift from the British
      Empire.

      Even the National Anthem of India was put into a proper Band
      and its notations were done by Irish Poet James H Cousins wife Margeret as a Prayer Song in Praise of God. The notations are carried till this day.

      On the evening
      of 28 February 1919 TAGORE joined a gathering of students and upon Cousins’
      request, sang the Jana Gana Mana in Bengali. The college authorities, greatly
      impressed by the lofty ideals of the song and the praise to God, selected it as
      their prayer song. In the days that followed, enchanted by the dreamy hills of
      Madanapalle, Tagore wrote down the English translation of the song and along
      with Cousins’ wife, Margaret (an expert in Western music), set down the
      notation which is followed till this day. The song was carried beyond the
      borders of India by the college students and became The Morning Song of India and subsequently the national anthem

      The National Anthem of India is
      played or sung on various occasions.

      Controversy shadowed Jana Gana Mana from the day of its first
      rendition in 1911 at the Congress session in Calcutta. King George V was scheduled to arrive in the city on 30 December and reported
      – that Tagore’s hymn was a homage to the emperor

      Today, Britain is
      completely Multi-cultural and you will find yourself more like in Cannaught
      Place – Delhi than in London, seeing the no. of Asians and Arabs in the
      streets. British are the most
      non-racist people I have met, besides, they carry the regrets & guilt from
      the past of any wrong-doings of their forefathers, just as the Americans and the Germans, do for
      the dark pages of their history. However,
      that does not stop them from being rightly proud of citizens of a country that tried to unify all nations
      into equality and democracy.

      Had the British remained
      in India, India would have been a Lot of Disciplined and Prosperous country. God Save the Queen.

      • Yvonne Horak

        Britain survived on plundering.riches from other Countries. They were never INVITED there~!! YOUR ISLAND is a dot on the map in Comparison. Britain had NONE of the riches of the Countries they plundered and needed to keep their Navy, Armies, and a majority of the other lot on the dole, going in Britain. Your glory days are OVER!1

    • Андрей Аккелин

      You must have met only Indians from the stste of Gujrat or Rajasthan . Your descriptions fits so well .

    • QV3

      Indians seem to be the majority in NASA. And in American hospitals. Recently, a very young surgeon of Indian origin leads the entire department. Top students in Britain I read are of Indian origin.
      But I do know of white yobs, and white parasites who scream: Don’t cap my benefits – while they trot off to the beauty parlour to have their nails painted.
      Anyways, if you are a Briton, you must be ecstatic it is now being overtaken by Islamic law. Banks, schools, have all gone sharia.

      • Reader

        You guys are the unfortunate offsprings of RAPES, SEDUCTIONS, ABDUCTIONS, Atrocities committed, All in the Name of God. You are bound to behave this way, as this is how you were born – A Conceivement By Rape, Birth by Force, A Life full of Violence, and Peace of the Graveyard.

        • QV3

          History records you Britons to be a nation of bastards raped by Vikings, Romans, Saxons, Normans and Germans. So don’t talk cock.

    • jack night

      Haha don’t worry you white bastards would become minority in your own country. F@cking schmuck.

  • Tanisha Fronk

    poor people are exploited by rich all the times, even now!! It is sad sad story. People do anything for money!!

    • QV3

      Libya. The only successful North African country. destroyed. its gold and billions stolen. By US/UK/France. Look at Libya before and Libya now.
      And then the West wonders why the world hates them so.

      • Reader

        Only thugs like you will hate the Western society, the very forum you are in, the very English that you write, is the gift from the Western world. Had you been retaining your culture and whatever you call it, you would have never had an opportunity to critisize it, just get subjecticated. America will never spare a single Tyrant on earth . . . Just Remember That . . .

        • QV3

          This article needs an English language response, dear fellow.
          America is a gone case. Everyone knows it except anglosaxons.

        • Yvonne Horak

          America is going down. Lost respect. Who do you think takes note of America now? Russia?China?Asia Block,? Britain even worse. Will never never be ‘GREAT Britain” ever again. Not much British left is there?

  • Yvonne Horak

    Yes, also the history of the Concenration Camps in South Africa to which they transported only the women and children after destroying and burning their homes, possessions, their farms and looting all the livestock for their troupes. They could not beat the Boers in a fair war, so they rounded up their women and children,started their scorched earth policy and forced them into these guarded camps where they died in thousands from malnutrition and disease. After the war, those that we lucky enough to survive, had to return to bare land ,no homes, furniture,possessions clothes, livestock NOTHING !!Many without husbands or men folk to assist. They were the poorest of the poor. Disgrace !

    • David

      A fair fight? The Boers were hiding amongst the population, dressed as civilians, popping up to kill in guerilla attacks. Sound familiar? They are called terrorists nowadays….

      Still once the British were out, South Africa turned into a haven of peace and tranquility under the peace loving Boers. Unless you were black, of course.

      • Yvonne Horak

        Suggest you pay a visit to a good library or the Archives. Also read the book by Emily Hobhouse. Hiding amongst the population? Are you crazy? They were not that stupid. They were not guerillas and they were in Commando from various districts under Command of Boer Generals. Each Commando consisted of 50 and more and ev en larger Commandos. They were not dressed as Civilians to avoid the British Forces, they WERE Civilians and Farmers and did not even have uniforms. Just their horses and their rifles and the GUTS to take on the British Forces armed with the latest and even cannons which the Boers did not have at all. .At the start of the war there were only 27,000 Boer in Commandos.The boers resorted to fighting their way- call it guerilla fighting if you so wish.They outwitted, and out fought the British Army. Britain thought it would be a walk over and just last a few months. They lost all the battles. Had to send for reinforcements . Britain was embarrassed to have lost to what they called a “rural backward Army”.It was the bloodiest, longest and most expensive war that Britain had fought between 1815 and 1915. eventually there were about 500,000 British Soldiers fighting. They could not beat the Boers. Then they resorted to the “Scorched Earth Policy” of that coward, Lord Kitchener. They rounded up the Boer Women and Children alone and running the farms. They burnt down about 30,000 Boer farmhouses and all their possessions, burnt their crops and killed all their livestock and 40 Towns were burnt down. They transported the Women and children and put them in the “First Concentration Camps ” the World had ever seen. They were treated like animals, died of disease and famine. 1 in every 5 Boer children died in these Camps and 27,635 Women. Trained soldiers of one of the World Powers at that time invading other Nations had to resort to
        fighting women and children because they could not beat the men any other way. Certainly not a Victory to be proud of for any Invaders and Plunderers.. The war was actually in two sections. The first Boer war and then the Second Boer war. Your ignorance is amazing.South Africa did become even more developed and better than some Countries in Europe and certainly better than any in Africa. It was clean, safe with a first World Infrastructure. Alas the deterioration everywhere Now is very sad. Nothing is being maintained and it is once again being plundered- this time by the typical Despots lining their pockets that Africa is famous for. So is the CRIME rate. Out of control.-no longer safe at all.

        • David

          “Alas the deterioration everywhere Now is very sad.”

          Much better when the whites ran the show, aye?

          • Yvonne Horak

            Unfortunately that is a fact too. everything worked and crime was under control, rapes,murder figures prove that. Family homes now are like jails. High walls, electric fences, burglar alarms and also burglar guards, Surveillance Cameras and vicious dog and even Private Security Guards if you can afford it. Hijackings always a risk! Parks and Nature trails are not safe, secluded beautiful beaches not safe. Maybe you get to work safe and maybe get home safe. People have to be vigilint ALL the time. Now there is uncontrolled crime everywhere. ,squatter camps everywhere, illegals by the millions , deterioration in infrastructure due to failure and KNOWLEDGE and EXPERIENCE to maintain everything. From electricity, water, -all infrastructure collapsing daily . Billions in debt now. Despots and Fraudster, Pilferers Managing now and all have become BILLIONAIRES in just 21 years from nothing. The poor have increased by Millions and poorer now than ever, hundreds of thousands of jobs lost. Nothing to do Race but with capable,honest people and LAWS enforced.. Singapore etc. are not managed by Whites! but by brains ! Better than before? No never -it is visible everywhere.

          • Yvonne Horak

            Judge for yourself- what it used to be and what it has become now.

        • Trevor

          You are not entirely correct. The Boers did suffer and die in the concentration camps at the hands of the British so why when they got into power decided to do the same and worse to us Blacks . Should not have learnt from their own suffering at the hands of the British. And by the way for your info the British were defeated by the Zulu tribe .The Boer sought the help from the Zulus because they could not do it alone. I am black South African and show me one country the British did not cause any human right atrocities . We have a group that calls themselves Nazi hunters maybe we should have British hunters .

      • Yvonne Horak

        There were only women and children in the Camps. No men. They were away fighting. do not talk nonsense , they were not dressed as civilians and amongst the population. There were in commandos and Regiments on Horseback and away from their farms. How the devil do you hide someone on horseback amongst the Population? They only had horses as transport. They did not have fancy weapons, uniforms etc. They were not an army or a Military Force or trained soldiers, with Regiments all over the World invading other Countries, No ships, etc like the British with thousands of armed and trained soldiers arriving heavily armed for War ,to attack them. They had no Reserves to call up .There were over 50 British Batalions.Had they been equal in number, trained in soldiering and equal in weapons, the British would have had no chance whatsoever. They were mainly farmers, blacksmiths, shopkeepers, Preachers. The women and children were rounded up on the farms as they were unarmed, unprotected and an easy target. Their British wives and children were safely back in good old England !
        The British losses were astronomical in comparison,roughly 55,000 dead, (altogether about 72300 Casualties, which were the deceased and the rest were badly wounded and declared unfit.) Total Boer Commando Members that died in battle about 4000. Further Boers died in Prisoner of War Camps on Sri Lanka and Bermuda etc. 26,000 Women and children died in the Concentration Camps- do the figures yourself. They could not fight the war to win, man to man so, they had to win by destroying their families left behind , their homes and their women and children. The boers would have kept that War going for years and British would have suffered unbelieveable casualties.They were hardened Pioneers, used to harsh climate conditions ,the Bush and mountains.Good horsemen,very good trackers, very good marksmen and hunters too and their endurance and Courage is well documented.They could survive with nothing in the bush,but hunting game and living off plants and berries ,wild fruits and wild vegetables.They had very good training from childhood on survival. They knew how and where to find water.Those are the FACTS, no good trying to deny History.It was another shocking disgrace for Britain and will forever be recorded as such against Britain. .

        • EnglandmyEngland

          Bullshit. My forefathers fought in the Boer War. We’ve got the medals to prove it. 8,000 Brits died in combat. 9,000 Boers died in combat. 24,000 Boers imprisoned. As usual the Brits won, we kicked their asses and we were 9,000 miles from home!

          • Yvonne Horak

            YOU are writing utter bullshit here. Maybe YOU should go and brush up on your own history.Maybe you should read about the battles of Laingsnek, Stormberg Magersfontein,Colenso, Spionkop,Majuba ,Ingogo and many others and start counting
            8000 Brits died? You must seriously be dreaming!- your own BBC had already put the numbers of British Casualties at 55,000 in 1900. Of the Boer deaths More than tripple the number of women and children died in British Concentration Camps than Boer fighters.Disgrace! At just the battle of Colenso 21,000 British well armed against 8000 Boers- British casualties were1,345 and Boers 32 wounded and 8 killed. Majuba 400 Brits under Colonel Colley- of which 223 killed and Boers 6 wounded and 1 dead. The list goes on- do your sums! The British eventually had 180,000 Troupes against the handful of Boers in comparison AND nurses, field hospitals and Superior armed, cannons etc. -Why did they need to resort to Concentration Camps and a scorched earth Policy if they were so good as you believe? Man to man on equal footing a Brit would have had NO CHANCE against a Boer fighter.The Brits even had Australians, Canadian and New Zealand troupes.New Zealanders were known amongst the boers as the worse horsemen and shots of these troupes. Australians were known as the Best of the lot including the Brits. They were more hardened men and respected by the Boers as such,also they were kinder to the Boer women and children, so were the New Zealanders. Many came back after the war and visited the farms where they had been given a home cooked meal by the Boer women when they arrived on farms hungry and tired. They did not ransack farms .There were some British Commanders that were also kinder and some even advised the women and children to pack up and move to towns as they would not be treated as kindly by other Regiments that would be arriving which was true. Many others were plunderers and considered riff raff by the Boer women and cowards.The Boer women were also hardened, good shots and very good riders, so were the children. They were used to endure hardships,wild animals. Many were teachers,good Music Teachers also, with Ancestors that had come from France,Holland, Germany and had University backgrounds.
            Many of their homes were furnished with beautiful antiques, were excellent cooks,with a lot of silver and Porcelain from Europe( which many of them saved and buried). Off course most of these were also burned!! Many were kind and had empathy, BUT a greater majority were Monsters and not considered refined or Gentlemen.Those are the true stories from Women themselves that survived.
            Believe what you want, but kicked asses? Whose asses? Majority Women and children ?

      • QV3

        The Concentration Camps

        1899 – 1902

        by Hennie Barnard

        “They are not buried
        here; they are planted. And they will for ever be growing in the hearts of the
        Boer people.”

        B Barnard on Concentration Camp Day 21 May 1995 at Balmoral Concentration
        Camp Cemetery

        Look for the book .

  • Karma is coming to the UK…in clouds…

    • Yvonne Horak

      Sure! UK is no longer “Great Britian” that is for sure. Those days are LONG GONE !Kaitangsou.

    • Reader

      Thats because UK had been compassionate enough to accommodate so many like yourselves, and you got in, using the cover of persecution in your country of origin.

      • QV3

        Nah. Blair wanted to flood Britain with riff raffs.
        The EU now screams to Britain that it isnot doing enough — take in more riff raffs. 57 million Refugees from the Middle East, destabllised by France, UK, US, Germany now want to invade Europe. Enjoy them.
        EUians deserve them.

        • EnglandmyEngland

          QV3/Yvonne Horak – you seem to be immersed in the past. Looking for your arguments in the annals of time. You probably get off on your ability to put clever sentences together. What sad people you are. Get a life, stop bitching. You’ve probably educated you children in the West. People like you criticise the West whilst enjoying what we’ve created. Great institutions. Great quality of life. You’re just vexed that your countries can’t emulate our greatness and never will.

          • QV3

            Then you accuse the World Observer for immersing in the past with this article The Bengal Famine? If so, write and complain to the editor. And if it bothers and rakes your guilty conscience, why are you here? Immerse and revel in the horrendous, evil deeds of your ancestors of 5 centuries of invading, murdering, plundering, colonising so generational parasites can justify that.
            As for your universities, we see your universities coming out to the East begging for students!

          • QV3

            Great institutions. That badly and sorely NEEDS students or closure is imminent.

            Great quality of life.

            Your MP has told in Parliament’s first day:
            STARVATION IN THE UK.

            Yes, great life. Great living. Kids go hungry, yobs on the rise, immigrants swarming and making life resemble worse than a 3rd world country, homeless on the rise, poverty resemblilng Victorian Times is back. Ooooooh, you are soooo proud.

          • Yvonne Horak

            You created bugger all here. When my Ancestors arrived here in 1652 there was sweet blow all. We still have our wine farms, houses built by our Ancestors, that are National Monuments today and still lived in by many of us and Still standing on our wine farms.Nobody from England established those or even had the faintest idea about wines. Today you Brits visit in thousands to come and taste our Gold Medal Wines and our Cuisine ,that can match the best in the World !!!the heritage left us by OUR Ancestors, none of yours. I regret advise you and blow your bubble,. I doubt in those times, that MANY of your Soldiers sent here (even majority I would say and officers and their families )had even the remotest experience what is was like to live in homes like some of the Boers did or enjoy their lifestyles, Not in dreary Council houses/up and downs all in a row on pavements, not front gardens, driveways,all on some sort of dole and dependant on Army salary and handouts. THAT is why they wanted South Africa ,at all cost ! and off course the Gold and diamonds that were discovered. Unless you were one of Aristocrats and lived off the poor plebs that plundered other Countries on your Government and the “Old Queen’s” behalf. Just like they plundered India, enslaved Hong Kong to Opium etc. Recently history, you have the chaos,misery, suffering in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya to add to your Portfolio.
            We acknowledge our History, the good and the bad, high time you in Britain did the same. greatness? Your only greatness is built on the destruction and plunder of the riches of other Countries Sir.!

    • QV3

      Oh dear. I sent a video. And its held up.
      But the headline of the video screams; STARVATION IN THE UK.

      • EnglandmyEngland

        You’re reading too many comics. No-one starves in the UK. You’re talking crap.

    • EnglandmyEngland

      Not in your life time fool.

  • Syed Rafihaider

    British ruler was involve in genocide of not only Bengali people also devastated all nation those try to get ride off from them. they are inventor of genocide.

    • QV3

      The Nazis pale in comparison

  • Rame Besa

    I don’t simpathize with Churchills ideas at all as an brilliant statesman. Why than he didn’t join Hitler in 1939.

    • QV3

      Churchill was a manic depressive.

      Some things about Churchill everyone should know: 1. On Iraq uprising against British colonialism: “I don’t understand this squeamishness about gassing uncivilized tribes.” 2. On European Jews: “In effect, it is possible to suppose that the Jews involuntarily invite their own persecution–that they are partly responsible for the hostility they suffer.” 3. On the Soviet victory at Stalingrad: on 20 August in Quebec, Churchill proposes to Roosevelt dropping the anti-Hitler alliance and joining the Nazi generals in defeating the Soviet Union. This proposal is dropped, but they decide to delay as long as possible the opening of the second front. How many more Soviets died in one year of this extension of the war on the eastern front? 4. Operation Unthinkable was a British plan, proposed by Churchill and planned by
      the British army, to attack the Soviet Union after the war ended.Only the
      strong Soviet military presence in Europe prevented its enactment. This plan was made public only in 1998. 5. Churchill orders British forces to crush the Communist partisans in Greece and to support the rightist and Nazi-collaborator forces. This causes a civil war in Greece that exacts 120,000 deaths. 6. He energetically crushes the Mau-Mau rebellion in Kenya (11,000
      dead; hundreds of thousands put in concentration camps). BTW he executed President Obama’s grandfather by hanging — maybe that’s why Obama sent the bust of Churchill back to Britain — 7. He insists on
      bombing Dresden solely because it was going to be in East Germany, occupied by USSR (120,000 dead) 8. Then there is India!

  • Reader

    FAMINE was something that was always there in PRE-COLONIAL India. It was only after the British came into India, such a thing started getting recorded.

    • QV3

      Bollocks.

    • jack night

      You bastard,gdp of India was higher than UK. More crawl back to your basement.

      • Reader

        Yaaaa, you are right, Indians used to fly Spacecraft prior to the advent of colonialism

  • Bala

    These mean the westerns had destroyed and raped the rich civilised culture of the East and fathered bastardised systems which tends to live up for generations. Yet we are still in an ignorance state of ketuanan Western. What a day man.

    • QV3

      500 years of rape, murder, plunder, colonise. That’s the history of Britain.
      Every magnificent building you see in Britain came from LOOTING.
      The Isles bred generational parasites and are proud of it. Especially their yobs.

    • Petr Seberád

      No. India had before British rule 100-150 millions ppl and after 300-350 millions ppl. They actually developed India, because they brought stability.

  • Kamil Mian

    I thought the Hindus blame the Mughals for all the ills of Indian society today. Wikipedia has opened my eyes of what the Brits did to India.

    • Reader

      Hindus blamed the Mughals for all the ills of India and complained to the East India Company, to get rid of the Mughals, Once the Mughals were out, and India was in a Vacuum period, the Hindus joined hands with the Muslims and sabotaged the British Raj by way of non-cooperation movement. Once the British left, both Hindus and Muslims are started their un-ending fight among themselves, to get rid of each other.

      • QV3

        The Mughals were still in power when the East India Company cast its insatiable greed on India. What was it that filthy toad, a dastardly specimen of a vermin called Thomas Babington Macaulay (1800-1859), member of the governing council of the East India Company from 1834 to 1838 said:

        “I have traveled across the length and breadth of India and I have not seen one person who is a beggar, who is a thief. Such wealth I have seen in this country, such high moral values, people of such calibre, that I do not think we would ever conquer this country, unless we break the very backbone of this nation, which is her spiritual and cultural heritage, and, therefore, I propose that we replace her old and ancient education system, her culture, for if the Indians think that all that is foreign and English is good and greater than their own, they will lose their self-esteem, their native self-culture and they will become what we want them, a truly dominated nation.”

        And that is what Britain was good at. dominating.

        The Partition of India was a Deliberate Punishment on Hindu India for daring to want independence. 200 years of PLUNDER had come to an end. And so the British cut the most fertile Punjab into two and supported their darling muslims then, as they do now, in Britain, today. Look at their queen. How she fawns on the ME sultans and emirs.

  • Stephen Holmes

    the true figure is in fact closer to 30million

  • Petrovitch

    It’s always easy to bash the British. We do it ourselves better than anyone. There are always distorted stories of this kind for the anti-Brit people to hang their disreputable hats onto. The facts that natural famines have been common-place in many places in the world for a very long time escapes them. The fact that until the British arrived there were few records to say what had happened before, doesn’t occur to them. The fact that British “tenure” doesn’t mean that they/ we are responsible for everything that happened. The fact that revisiting history with the uncertainty of factual reporting but with modern “thinking” frequently paints an inaccurate picture.The fact that in every act of inhumanity to man there is always local complicity within- e.g slave traders were only able to operate because of the internal cooperation of people from the slave communities themselves who did it for money; collaboration between German Nazis and French, Belgians, Dutch, Norwegian, etc etc enabled the Nazis to succeed. What is rarely done is to recognise the benefits brought to people by British involvement- What did the Romans (British) ever do for us syndrome!

    • Reader

      It was only due to the British Raj, at least we know there was a FAMINE. Untill then whatever famines occurred in India were never recorded. Just as the Legislators and Rich of Todays India, they just used to ignore the dying poor in India. Thank God, The British Raj was there to record it for posterity to do some bit of a research on.

      • QV3

        There are 14 recorded famines in India between the 11th and 17th centuries. Due to internal wars. Like Emperor Ashoka’s war with Kalinga. So don’t praise your British scum.

        • Reader

          You seem to me like a Paki migrant to the UK

          • QV3

            Sorry. I’m yellow on the outside and white on the inside.
            And I do have black belts and enjoyed belting a couple of yobs when I was attacked in London.
            I wouldn’t want to stay in the UK for all the money in the world. English already was a second language a decade ago. Absolutely horrifying. Britain’s gone. Finito. Kaput.
            Murdoch’s organising the downfall of the Mongrel Monarchy. Revealed: All the Nazi salutes by the Germans in Buck’s place, philip’s nazi past and his 3 sisters married to top nazis -LOL!

          • jack night

            I’m glad that you bastards are raped by pakis in Rotherham. You deserve it.

          • Reader

            Dont you worry Mr.Paki, we are blowing up pak remotely, one by one.

    • QV3

      Do read what you Brits did to Ireland. Shame on you.

      • Petrovitch

        You had better enlighten me, and whilst you’re at it, let us know where you are from. I suspect a yankee, who knows no history.

        • QV3

          Forbid! Definitely not a yankee. The worst barbarians on earth.
          And you know history, Petrovitch? So far, you’ve contributed nothing to this Bengal Famine subject.

          • Petrovitch

            Coming from someone who doesn’t answer pertinent questions, of course I am mortified! (That’s sarcasm just in case you are a yankee), but of course you are Irish- the strangest people on earth whose persecution complex is greater even than the Scots. Don’t get me wrong, I know many Irish people, and they are no different from the rest of us, but you guys who don’t accept historical facts and support terrorism to get back at an imaginary foe, are a nuisance. Those of you who kill and maim have no place to be telling others of your opinions, they are worthless.

          • QV3

            I think I have answered every ‘pertinent’ question. Don’t get mortified. Refute.
            What a pygmy mind you have. Just because I speak on behalf of and defend the Irish, you ASSUME I am Irish.
            Irish people will be at peace if the British terrorists give back to the Irish everything that belongs to the Irish, Ireland to secede from the Union.
            Ditto with Scotland.

          • Petrovitch

            These are the two questions you didn’t answer, although why I’m bothering with an obvious troll, I don’t know. “You had better enlighten me, and whilst you’re at it, let us know where you are from. I suspect a yankee, who knows no history.” I’ve read your other posts here and one thing is clear- whatever you have read about British history it is tainted with a prejudice that you aren’t declaring, and you have made your judgements without any objectivity to either the times and places which cannot be judged with modern hindsight, and with ignorance or determination to be selective, to make sure that you give no credit to the British for anything. You have gone to town on this subject so I can only assume that a British person did something unspeakable to your mother. As for where you emanate from you have given only one clue in that you are in the “east”, but then so am I but was born in south London originally. I have lived in many places including Scotland for several years and one thing I know for a fact is that the Scottish Nationalists wouldn’t be making the money they are if they didn’t invent and exaggerate a feeling that the English abused them over the years. In fact in that respect they are identical to the IRA who used a fabricated cause to make enormous sums of money, and escalated the flow of cash through murder, torture and fear. I’ll be blunt- the people that support the irish and scottish independence movements through abuse of their benefactors are scum. Those with honest desires for independence on the other hand should be treated with respect and I believe they should be granted it. It is not the Queen that is denying them that privelege, it is the politicians and your ignorance of that is proof of an all encompassing ignorance of anything to do with British history. I suggest you get a book and start reading from Cromwell onwards.

          • QV3

            SO, DON[‘T BOTHER. Why should I demean myself responding to a Savage, a Barbarian Scum you are?

          • Petrovitch

            Ok, so you revealed your problem, well done. Enjoy your trolling little person.

          • QV3

            What trolling dumbass ?An Englsh masquerading as Russian? Why so afraid when you defend the English?
            And why are you so convinced i am a yankee?
            You did not disclose the TWO pertinent questions. Which shows you are a LIAR. all English are LIARS. Its in the DNA.
            English Lies, People of the world Die.
            And some Irish must have raped your mother, grandmother, sister, and you are a half-Irish bastard that you hate the Irish so much.
            YOU do not know British history. We are well versed in British history. The ‘queen’ was a sociopath. The Great Irish Famine occurred during 1845 – 52. The British Mongrel Monarchy have as much power as the politicians. If the queen decided war today, all of Britain would have to go to war. You are so incredibly stupid. LIke the school children of Britain, 14 year olds who believe HItler liberated Britain. Sounds like you.
            The truth is, you can’t stand the truth just how evil the British Empire was, is. Even today.
            Discussion is for adults. You are definitely not qualified.

          • Petrovitch

            “An Englsh masquerading as Russian? ” That is hilarious, you’re so ignorant you don’t know that Petrovitch isn’t a Russian name, so funny! Goodbye troll, enjoy your rather dubious fun using the British inventions of the computer and the internet! What a w******r?

          • QV3

            And goodbye Psychpath.
            The British did not invent the computer nor the internet.
            The Jews did. Jews top the Nobel Prize, every year. 90% of medical technology used in British hospitals is Jewish invented. So take your lies elsewhere, downsyndrome product.
            What a LOSER!

          • Petrovitch

            Ah, getting closer to your grudges all of the time now, keep going, every message provides more information about you. We already know that you don’t actually use facts, and it appears you don’t actually know any. It’s all in the head, and saying that other people are actually what you are is a classic symptom of the narcissistic and histrionic personality disorders. By the way, the first electronic computer was made by EnglishmanTommy Flowers in London in 1943. The first programmable computer was invented by Charles Babbage in 1822, also English. The world wide web was invented by Englishman Time Berners-Lee in 1989. I’m sure it hurts you to accept it so you won’t, you’ll protect your introvert personality by denial and then spout out some other ridiculous insult. By the way, it’s water off a ducks back, Englishmen are very resilient and do not take offence especially from fools!

          • QV3

            I though we bid goodbye? Truth gnawing at your vitals, Petrovitch? Pity. oh, do run along and get the book LATE VICTORIAN HOLOCAUST author Mike Davis.

          • Petrovitch

            “Goodbye is but a pause before renewing old friendships”.

            All books are factual are they? How many Jack the Ripper books have been written about the Victorian murder and how many of them stick to facts? You know, you could almost be irritating if it weren’t for the fact that I am making allowance for your mental issues.

          • Petrovitch

            So which is it? here you say that the Americans are the worst barbarians on earth, and in another message you say the same thing about the British. Seems you’re just ranting. Psychologically, how are you feeling?

    • Rajanranga

      Sir, do you agree with Mr churchill’s statement, when people were dying in mass in famine? Cruel. Even today, the articles and valuable items of national cultural importance stolen from India are held there

      • Petrovitch

        Absolutely not, and in fact I do not hold Churchill in the esteem that most British people do. Churchill, like most politicians was an unprincipled opportunist and everything he did, he did for himself. Regrettably he took advantage of the country at times when GB was most vulnerable and there were few who could match his charisma and rhetoric. He made many mistakes and this was one of them.

  • Val Bogan

    Whinston Churchill save only Britain, not Europe, from the monster like Hitler. Don’t distort.

  • jose vega

    so England enters to the club of world genocides

    • QV3

      For 5 centuries. Now Brits will be soon genocided. By their very own government. GMO franken foods, chemtrails, fracking, NHS , the aged, the babies, etc.

      • Reader

        You have a jihadi mind

        • QV3

          The jihadi mind is from good ole england. Seeing how MI5 created the MuslimBrotherhood?

  • Judge Joey

    Whatever is was. It’s still very heartbreaking to see those pictures of the past. Let’s stop blaming one another. Let’s just work together that it will not happen again.

    • QV3

      Tell that to the Global Slaughterhouse aka USSA.

      • Reader

        Thank God, we have a country like USA, otherwise this world will be ruled by Thugs like you have in your inspirational mind of the 6th century.

        • QV3

          While the East were sitting on silk cushions, and wearing silk, and eating gourmet food, the West, especially your anglosaxon scum of a country were wearing bark, and hunting for food.

  • Lovely

    Ghg

  • Lovely

    There is shining side of the British , please write that also. Your article is prejudiced.The British gave us many things which we are using till date, there are many things. Please write about the atrocities by the Islamic Rulers of India.
    For eg the present Indian Const is replica of Govt of India Act 1935( 3/4 th ).etc etc etc

  • cathy

    All of those poor people and the woman is trying to breast feed? Yesterday, I saw a 1980 photo of a liittle boy’s super starved hand in the hand of a missionary. I was soo upset. The picture had NO information. I looked it up on Google. Now this and British, yet. Whoever was responsible for all of this, I hope they are burning in hell.

    • cathy

      Yesterday’s photo was in Uganda.

  • rajan

    When many African leaders and others have been probed, dragged to court of law and punished for war crimes and many other reasons like human right violation etc by international courts, why the British leaders and heads like queen and others were not taken into task for their crimes committed in India and colonial states during their occupation.

    • QV3

      CaMoron refused to apologise for that massacre in Jallianwalah Bagh during his visit to India. Ditto with Blair. We read of upstart David Miliband thumping his chest and barking at Indian officials at a meeting with Sonia’s puppet of a PM.

      Today, British Independent reports
      46,000 Britons were slave owners on the day that slavery was abolished in 1833 and all received a share of a £17 billion compensation payout from the Government.

      Britain has a nasty habit as policy to REWARD those who deal in murder (Jallianwalah Bagh — Psychopath Dryer was promoted) opium dealings, and slavery.
      That’s Britain and the British establishment, folks.

  • SweetMarmot

    No wonder the Indian people are still mostly Hindu, with the example of Christianity that the British gave them. No wonder Ghandi said, ‘I love your Jesus, but I can’t stand his followers,’ or words to that effect. With the British showing them such an ugly example of Christianity, it’s no wonder. If the British had governed with compassion and the love of Jesus, India might be a Christian country by now.
    Nice way to lose souls for the kingdom, Brits. You’ll stand before God for this.

    • QV3

      If you care to read the history of India during its colonisation by Evil Britain, you will find that the Brahmin priests conducted everything in Sanskrit, buried all the holy books they possessed, and played dumb when questioned.
      As for christianity, do make a quick research and find for yourself that all the prime land in India was ‘confiscated’ by the Vatican.

  • pugadlawin

    The day of reckoning will come, sooner or later.

    • Petrovitch

      It already has, the UK is overrun with Pakistanis and Somalis who think nothing except for themselves. Indians are culturally and educationally superior to them and are great support for the British. Hindus and Sikhs to the forefront of traditional British culture, they understand it and embrace it.

  • Destiny2016

    Blood Britain…was one of the most evil empires but always seeks to focus on the evils of other countries. Yet it meticulously hides it own rampage on the world killing millions. When will they be honest enough to accept that they were one of the most bloody and evil empires of all time?

  • Santhosh Palathinkal

    Our politicians have no time to think of it??? winston churchil was more cruel than hitler….

  • Pincho13

    All over the former colonies. Recognition and reparation…!!!

  • headache

    How about Stalin starving his own people? How about how many millions Mao killed?

  • josie

    God I thought then that British were much better than Americans.

  • ahmed habib

    This is a tragedy and more then that to us. Bengal ruled by foreigners for many hundred of years and not really looked after. We, the Bengali people know that. Bangladesh, just entered the lower middle income group. No Bengali people are dying in famine any more. Glad that we make Churchill & Henry Kissinger wrong. Bengal/ Bangladesh is poised for middle income country by 2020 & future Asian tiger. Would it be a consolation for our ancestor who dies for food? Then let it be happened soon.

  • albino39

    Worse than the nazi’s.

  • Becca Towers

    Wow I wish they would tell the truth, the Germans killed million and the Japanese Killed millions more during WW2 and were entirely responsible for the famines which followed the war which killed an estimated 30 million more people globally, or are you going to find a way to pin that on the British also? I also notice that not one Indian the the photo above is lending aid to the famine victim lying by the pillar, to me that shows just how caring the Indian population is!!!!

    As the ancient history from Indian regions show The Tughlaq Dynasty under Muhammad bin Tughluq held power during the famine centered on Delhi in 1335–42. The sultanate offered no relief to the starving residents of Delhi during this famine. Other pre-colonial famines in the Deccan were the Damajipant famine of 1460 and the famines starting in 1520 and 1629. The famine in the Deccan and Gujarat, was another famine in India’s history.[17] An estimated 3 million perished in Gujarat and one million in the Deccan. In the second year the famine killed not only the poor but the rich as well.[17] The Damajipant famine is said to have caused ruin both in the northern and southern parts of the Deccan.[11] Famines hit the Deccan in 1655, 1682 and 1884. Another famine in 1702–1704 killed over two million people. Mughal officials took no long term measures to fight famines in Kashmir,[20] and the land tax system of Mughal India often contributed to the scale of famines by depriving Indian peasants of much of their harvest in the good years, denying them the opportunity to build up stocks

  • Jady2

    Very illuminating sideways discussions going on — just dropped in.

    QV3 — enjoyed your remarks which are more or less in line with historical direction. One small correction about “… after the Ottoman Empire was reduced to clay…”. The Turks had already showed their steel quite heavy against the short and disastrous Allied / Brit Adrianopole campaign in 1915 — then with less than half the Allied numbers on the field Turks again bloodied the Brits – Allied forces in the 4 month long Gallipoli campaign 1916 where the Brit, Royal Indian and Anzac lost over 100,000 men dead (over 60,000 evacuated wounded) in just the last battle of the disastrous campaign in 3 brutal days (brits were trying to seek route thru Bosphorus into Crimea where the Turk-German force was beseiging the Allies).

    Then happened the Balfour Declaration of Mar 1917 leading to the switching of loyalties and huge financial wealth of Zionists from Germany to Britain. That was the beginning of the end game.

    Ah and then the brilliant MI5 agents Col T.E. Lawrence of Arabia (film fame) and the erstwhile “diplomat-at-large” Gertrude Bell, hatched the first most organized terrorist campaign with the help of camel and goat herders to sabotage Turkish installations and the famous railway lifeline linking the vast Ottoman empire from Aleppo in north thru Palestine to Medina (Hejaz Railway). Try mentioning Hejaz Railway and Arab duplicity to Arabs and you will most certainly get the frowns. That is how over the next 16 months the tide of battle in the ‘Near East’ was turned — the Turks were betrayed into clay! Yes QV3 you are right — the goat herds brothers and cousins were all indeed subsequently made royals in Baghdad, Amman, Medina & Damascus — with Palestine so-called UN Mandate Territory handed over to the likes of Irgun and Shin Beth in the new Israeli state, who then unleashed their 2nd wave of ME terrorism from 1946 to drive out the Palestinians — hugely successfully.

    Seeing the sorry plight of Arabs and Palestinians my father (may God bless his soul) had remarked in mid-80’s “The Arabs have been made to pay very dearly for their stab-in-the-back to brethren Turks. Even a sick elephant (Turks) keeps other animals at bay!” Since those original Brit-inspired terrorist campaigns the Arabs have been prey to the hyenas to this day!

    And Petrovich — may I offer a slight but important oversight about the King David Hotel attack in which many Brits also died. That was never meant as betrayal to Brits. That was the first recognized ultimate terrorism weapon — “Foreign Flag Operations” — it was structured and executed by Irgun dressed as Palestinians in Palistinian fishing boats. The famous Cairo bombings of 1951, Lavrov Affair, attack on USS Liberty 1966, the anti-Mosaddeque riots in 1952 were other glorious examples of this psuedo-military tactical invention — by Zionists & MI5 of course.

    Sorry to take so much space — but some approriate historical context seemed overdue amongst all the hyperbole. So there, now you truly have it! to paraphrase you QV3.

  • Harry Eisermann

    Churchill a war criminal as we all know, in the league with Stalin and Hitler, yes over population is an issue for India NOW, it destroys itself , India will NEVER be a first world country, with a population out of control !!! History can not be changed, the future can !

    • jack night

      Haha England’s population density is more than India. You people are breeding like rodents.

  • Zia

    This are outrageous and dark moments in history. The mighty British empire should really feel low and disgraced for their cruel policies. The many lives lost went into vain. The people of this part of the world also need to be blamed for not having a planned approach to living and food security.

  • Zero Gravity

    How can loyalty to one’s race or land or nation justify the deaths of innocent people? It is very sad that most people who comment here, blindly try to defend their own respective rulers/governments and shamelessly justify the deaths of millions.
    One psychopath’s crimes can’t be an excuse for another psychopath.
    Since times unknown, there has been no political ideology that does not
    rely on elimination of others, there has been no empire that didn’t feed
    on the blood of others, there has been no religion that didn’t preach
    death and disaster for those who don’t accept it. Through centuries,
    rulers changed, the rules never changed.

    Shame on all who defend
    and justify the killings, any killings. History and references to
    history are but just another means to justify one’s crimes by
    highlighting another one’s crimes. We are in 21st century, with it’s own
    live history being written infront of us all every day every minute…
    and your children and their children and their children are going to
    justify the cold blooded massacres with same shamelessness as you
    justify your parents’ and their parents’ and their parents’ crimes
    against humanity. For each one of you, your blood is more red than the
    other’s, for each one of you, your forefathers were justified when they
    killed others to take their land and livelihood, for each one of you,
    there is no shame.

  • Zero Gravity

    How can loyalty to one’s race or land or nation justify the deaths of
    innocent people? It is very sad that most people who comment here,
    blindly try to defend their own respective rulers/governments and
    shamelessly justify the deaths of millions.
    One psychopath’s crimes can’t be an excuse for another psychopath.
    Since times unknown, there has been no political ideology that does not
    rely on elimination of others, there has been no empire that didn’t feed
    on the blood of others, there has been no religion that didn’t preach
    death and disaster for those who don’t accept it. Through centuries,
    rulers changed, the rules never changed.

    Shame on all who defend
    and justify the killings, any killings. History and references to
    history are but just another means to justify one’s crimes by
    highlighting another one’s crimes. We are in 21st century, with it’s own
    live history being written in the blood of the innocents in front of us all every day every minute…
    and your children and their children and their children are going to
    justify the cold blooded massacres with same shamelessness as you
    justify your parents’ and their parents’ and their parents’ crimes
    against humanity. For each one of you, your blood is more red than the
    other’s, for each one of you, your forefathers were justified when they
    killed others to take their land and livelihood, for each one of you,
    there is no shame.

  • Ali S

    This is why as a South Asian man, I always chuckle with perverse relief whenever I hear white Englishfolk (usually middle-class, Daily Mail readers) complain about all the immigrants and refugees ‘taking over’ their ‘once-Great’ nation. That’s the least karma could give them. Churchill might have been a capable wartime leader, but he was a repulsive human being in every other context – racist, misogynistic and arrogant with a massive superiority complex.

    • jack night

      Hah true

  • Reader

    At least the Indians and the colonies should accept the fact, that the British are willing to Debate about the past mistakes if at all there were any, sensible and logical mistakes as against the attrocities that were already taking place in the Third World Countries

  • British Rule over much of the Asian countries are no good. British are the most brutal rulers of all history of mankind. They are much brutal than the Spaniards and Portuguese combined. Fuck Britain, fuck their King during that time and fuck their queen… This is the untold story of famine caused by British fucked rulers… All Indians should hit back at Britain and kill em whenever they go to their country.. 🙂

    • Reader

      You are indeed from the Religion of Piece.

  • BRITAIN! The number one INVADER in the whole wide world… Spaniards are next then Portuguese, Dutch then the modern day invader called United States of America…

    • Reader

      Sorry if you were left out in the race, for you were never the Best either way.

      • jack night

        Haha your white recessive genes are responsible for cancer. White are going to be extinct. You are going to die like lee rigby.

  • Kim Jong Uff

    Terrorism was designed by the Brits..USA is being used by Brits..they colonized Iran ..iraq..india..pakistan..hongkong..africa..somaliaand al religuous..l ethnicity and racial problrms was exagerrated by Britain on a devide and rule mission..

  • glizerl26@gmail.com

    they suffer ,

  • glizerl26@gmail.com

    same here in my country 🙁
    we still suffering from the cruel government 🙁

    • Reader

      You can relocate to India, anything Pharen is Great in India

      • glizerl26@gmail.com

        really how ?

      • glizerl26@gmail.com

        how

      • jack night

        Yes your ancestors came to India with a begging bowl.Gdp of India was bigger than American and UK before colonialism.

        • Reader

          Indians didnt know what to do with whatever they had, the British Raj started everything in India, starting from Toilet Training onwards. So next time Jacky, you go to the Western Closet, remember, it was the British Raj, they gifted you with the skill of sitting on a Closet, rather than climb on a tree and excrete for the pigs to enjoy and catch the splash

  • What nonsense. India is – and has always been – massively overpopulated. Look at the terrible city slums today full of tens of millions who barely survive. India desperately needs a 1 child policy like China.

  • Freedom

    Winston Churchill did not saved Europe from Hitler, than soviets Red Army.

  • austrorus .

    good to know things like that. as we all know in war it is the victors who write the history books. while i will and do not want for one minute do demean what the Germans did before/in WWII, it is nothing compared what the Brits did. were it the Concentration camps of the Boer war or that now.

  • John

    Winston Churchill did the same thing in Malta. People starved to death because the food was siphoned off to the British military. British propaganda films were sent to the UK falsely depicting how well fed Maltese children were. The only children that were fed well were the children of parents working in the Military.

  • Fitri Yana Astuti

    Horrible!

  • MC

    I think Nerendra Kumar has a problem and a slightly distorted view on history. Every empire does bad things but at the time are not, only when viewed retrospectively. The British empire did more good than bad (abolition of slavery for one). Get over yourself, take your head out from your arse and make your country a better place now as it is currently a shit hole like the majority states the BE handed over to its aboriginals in good condition only to be raped and pillaged by its new ‘democratic leaders’

  • MC

    And I’ll bet the picture with the vultures isn’t as a result of any famine……

  • Németh Zita

    my God..terrible..poor people 🙁

  • bravehostdickie

    again, so.much for the ‘god’ concept! can a ‘god’ be so partisan? or is ‘god a white’? Atheism is GOOD!

  • Clifford Terry

    As bad as the British Empire was for the average citizen living in the countries Britain preyed upon, the US empire of today seems to be worse. Imagine being the impelling force behind the creation al-Qaeda and ISIS and the operative force that has allowed the veritable destruction of the Palestinian people.

  • Rici

    Rabid british Dogs…

  • Tina Htoo

    The Arab Imperialist Islamic incursions and wars and final conquest of India killed many more and has changed India and much of Asia forever. They brought little . For all their bad deeds the British also built the infrastructure created posts telegraphs roads bridges the railways and many factories. What did Arab Islam do?

  • WalterFeldman

    Churchill made some valid points, Gandhi ate well and India’s population is well over 1 billion now.

  • Petr Seberád

    Overpopulation is a evil for people

  • Riadh Alayyoobi

    Whenever a Brit mentions IS I have this urge to slap his mouth with my shoes. Not that I approve of IS practices but because these assholes are the last eligible to speak of any atrocity,fuck the queen, fuck her heir too

  • SuperGoyem

    When the British left India it went back to being the most despotic , backward and fundamentally ignorant spot on the planet. ANUS MUNDI .
    When the repugnantly proud Indians spout off about being the “biggest democracy in the world” the victims of rape scream from there graves and the rest of us just laugh.

  • empire

    after British rule who were in power i.e congress, who never tried to raise these issue upto international level so British feel sorry for what they did !!!, why never govt.thought to put these incidents in Indian syllabus ?

  • Monty Tweeny

    The old ” loony right ” will never change.They use poverty as a weapon of control.!!!!

    • Reader

      Just as the modern day Indian Regional States of UP, Bihar, Jharkhand, etc.

  • LICKERthegreat

    It will be written, for sure. Mark my words, I swear by my Laudda, it will be done within 2 years, or so.

  • LICKERthegreat

    Blooooody Indians( I am an Indian and ashamed of it) deserve the treatment.
    A 5000 strong British Army conquered a country of 10 millions. I rest my argument. Slaves, slaves, more slaves.

  • Iris Byrne

    Check the youtubes for the Irish potato famine again, add the words engineered. Some very respectable historians and researchers did some digging and found that vast amounts of food were removed from the country by military orders and laws were passed against fishing. The moral of the story is check on the amount of food and land in your country before you have 7 kids, some government might be planning a famine.

  • Petronas 2017

    We should be concerned about what is happening in the modern world, right now. We can change what is happening now. If we live in the past our future will be worse!

  • patricia.daniel

    hi

  • Nagar Iyer

    Macaulay’s report to the British House in the 1750s goes like this:
    I visited the lengths & breadths of India;
    Nowhere I could see a BEGGAR, nor a JOBLESS man sitting idle.
    The percentage of educated in the south was 97%, West 90%, East 90% & the North 87%

    Before the British thieves arrived:
    Almost all the ships in the world were built using Indian made steel.
    The world had to look to India for best clothing & silk etc
    India commanded 30% of the world trade (today it is not even 3%)

    Macaulay suggested to the British Government : To subjugate India, we should first prevent Indians from becoming self sufficient in food; To do that, We should slaughter the COWs & BULLs of India; A DESI INDIAN COW can provide nutritious fertilizer & harmless pesticide to cultivate 30 acres of land.

    • Reader

      Response to your Definition of the Report by Macaulay is as follows :
      Beggars of the 1700s in India were not about as greedy as todays, I recently read that a Beggar in Bombay had more than a CRORE Rupees in his Bank account and several no. of Flats and Apartments. There were no Jobless, as there were no Job opportunities, no offices, no organized and standardized industry to go for a proper 9 – 5 Working environment.
      I appreciate your dependency on the British Raj for an acceptable and unbiased Report on the Subject in Question, of Education, Trade and Industry.
      There is no one stopping the INDIAN COWS for producing MILK, however, you can still rely on BROWN-SWISS, to feed the ever exploding Indian population. If the Indian COW has stopped producing Pesticides, thats because of the amount of COW URINE being consumed by the North Indians and DRY COW DUNG being used as a means of COW DUNG FUEL.

  • kalia

    Churchill was a bastard they played with indian s by dividing and still indians have no mind they still get divided you know how

  • SteveF

    Quit blaming the countries as a whole we citizens had nothing to do with this. Start writing these articles with the truth. Jewish banksters of of international cabals cause this on purpose for profit, power and enjoyment.

  • John Dawson

    This article would be more credible if the statement attributed to Churchill was provided with a source. That would have been very easy for the author to do. After all, if he really quoted Churchill, he presumably had the source at his fingertips.

  • Mike Haley

    rubbish article, Britain didn’t rule India in that time. They had a military presence in some regions at the invitation of local rulers, Also Stain’s enforced famine in Ukraine killed more than ten million Ukrainians

  • Aquinata

    Which words can be used to describe British rule and the whole lot of colonialists around the world? maybe in the next life there will be an expansion of our spoken words to help us describe the White people

    • Reader

      VIVACIOUS

      • Sebhsi

        Genocidal…

  • Bartholomew Akpaka Chimex

    they did the same thing in BIAFRA during nigeria biafra war 1967-1970 british help nigeria government and kill more than 3 million people, women and children were starved to death, the greatest genocide in history of humanity but the british government cover it up till today.

  • Thelma Fairweather-Siegel

    So, how do we get the British to pay tor these crimes to humanity, not only to India, but to Africa too. Elizabeth and her families with others are living a very luxurious life from the suffering of our people. The Jews are compensated for their suffering which happen a few years ago, but for the Indians and blacks which happens and still is happening these cruel people won’t write the wrong that they have done. Some day soon they will, because God is our judge and He is a just judge, He will re-pay the wrong that is done.

  • Arjun Sharma

    The photo of scattered dead bodies of human beings were killed by Muslims in Noakhali where more than 5000 Hindus were butchered and their deadbodies were left in streets because rhere was no body left for cremation.

  • Neuza Paranhos

    This is one of those times when I’d like to believe in the laws of karma – perhaps the old winston not reincarnated in the Senegalese Africa, for example, as one of those people dying from hunger that he would have scorned in their “good times”

  • kayumochi

    “Famine or no famine, Indians will breed like rabbits.” Churchill spoke the truth. The population of India will overtake China soon. That is not sustainable.

  • Les Blenkhorn

    Ain’t humans great? It wasn’t the first time and won’t be the last in which we will see man’s inhumanity to man.

  • Sajja Yuthakon

    The decendents of the those Europeans who plundered the third world and commited horrible atrocities are now upset about immigration and Islamic extremism forgetting what terrible crimes their forefathers did. Europe has developed due to the wealth stolen from other nations !

  • Bobby Brown

    This “article” doesn’t list any referenced material (those who attend college knows what I’m talking about). This unscholarly trash doesn’t pass the smell test.

  • Tom

    It’s a very saddening story and an outrageous one at that. The british left their mark everywhere around the world. Both good and bad but mostly bad. They were the ones who brought slavery to the US and it’s outlying islands and they started it with Irish slaves and it cumulated to African slaves. The slavery in our country started long before we became a country so the US as a whole should not be blamed it started with the british! And a side note there still are many brits that still think they have the empire of old and act the part very haughtily and in your face .

  • ABLE TABLE

    The West is doing the same in modern times but this time not for money but to Christianize. In Ethiopia famine was started in the largely Muslim zones and when people had nothing to eat the Christian missionaries went there,placed a basket full of food in front of them and asked “Do you need this?” When the famine-stricken people said “YES”.then the missionary people asked then to make Christian signs. Don’t believe it?! Read the article “THE MAIZE CHRISTIANS” in the topical magazine THE ECONOMIST.The wars started by the USA and other Western powers in Afghanistan,Iraq and other parts of the world have the same target.

  • phylin

    They didn’t do too badly with the Irish famine.

  • Paul

    Ashamed of my ancestors actions -BUT this was 200 years ago, and not modern Britain who had nothing to do with it. and Britain cant be that bad for indians as they have migrated to the UK in the hundreds of thousands… and I for one am happy they came !! they have given us great cuisine, beautiful women, and have become great BRITISH citizens.. that are proud to be British but again- Victorian Britain’s actions leaves a lot to be desired. and dont even bother to use the word repatriations- that wont work.

  • PARWAIZ ALI

    Parwaiz Ali,
    The common thing behind every cause harmed humanity throughout the world is the mindset of capitalism. We have been experiencing from East India Company to World wars and the process going on as the example of Iraq and Afghanistan.

  • pennyroyal

    we have a history that lies by omission as well as commission.

  • Haji_Hindustan

    The history of the British rule in India should be re-written objectively. The time has come to do this. The world must know the hidden truth. (Thanks Jahir Ahmed). But the policy of revenge should not be applied.

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  • Shagwell

    Who gives a rat’s arse about squillions of Indians dying anyway?
    Ghastly, disgusting, filthy race.
    Too many of them on the planet as it is.
    Churchill was absolutely right about them.
    All those who died of famine – they won’t be missed.

  • Bayu Anandavi

    What the… I never knew this before. Men who saved the world, just ruin another world with their another hand.

  • tmonsoon

    We’re only so fortunate now that we’ve become productive enough to offset the taxation.

  • Bond Summers

    Yes, I understand, bad stuff,… but still, people, don’t breed like rabbits. Prudence,… and make a good clean culture.

  • Madhu Krishna Vallabhajosyula

    The British!!! Everything they did, they did it for their gains, and let the world believe that they did everything fir a good cause. The other side of the coin is not visible until now, many generations later.

    For the matter of the fact, currently there is a subliminal divide between North Indians and South Indians culturally which can directly be attributed to the fabrication by The British that Aryans have migrated from European region around 3000 BC and settled here. And they blame Hitler for World War 2 (Isn’t it Hypocritical?) Hitler thought that he and the Germans were the descendants of The Aryan Race and the Jews are not and executed them in millions.

  • Madhu Krishna Vallabhajosyula

    Even when I was in school, my history books contained the same fabrication. I don’t know what is shown in today’s history book, but if they still do, they need to be rewritten. And for that a representation to the Central Government needs to be made.

  • Madhu Krishna Vallabhajosyula

    The British!!! Everything they did, they did it for their gains, and let the world believe that they did everything fir a good cause. The other side of the coin is not visible until now, many generations later.

    For the matter of the fact, currently there is a subliminal divide between North Indians and South Indians culturally which can directly be attributed to the fabrication by The British that Aryans have migrated from European region around 3000 BC and settled here. And they blame Hitler for World War 2 (Isn’t it Hypocritical?) Hitler thought that he and the Germans were the descendants of The Aryan Race and the Jews aren’t and executed them in millions.

  • DME

    what kind of horrible, demonic people run this world?